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ValueSubtracted Mod ,
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I'm pretty ambivalent about her, but I agree it was an interesting performance, particularly for a woman at that time in television.

She was horribly underused - it's downright criminal that she doesn't pay a significant role in "The Measure of a Man."

Deebster ,
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I watched that one last night and had the same thought - she's been the face of nonacceptance towards Data and although Bruce Maddox is far more extreme in his views it seemed like a waste of her character building.

That said, they'd already shoehorned in a Guinan scene so I don't know where they'd find the time.

milkisklim ,

Could you please expand on what you mean by shoehorning in the Guinan scene? How would you handle it if you were the episode writer?

Edit: to be clear, I know what shoehorning is, I just want to know why you think it occured here.

Deebster ,
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I was referring to this trivia:

Picard's scene with Guinan was not in the original script. Melinda M. Snodgrass was told that they needed a "Ten-Forward" scene to accommodate Whoopi Goldberg coming in that week.

I took it as true, although I had a quick go at finding where this claim came from and am drawing a blank

MentallyExhausted ,

I think that scene was necessary. “Disposable people” was a powerful summary of the issue.

milkisklim ,

Interesting and cool if true. Thanks!

richieadler ,

I think obvious that she would have sided with Maddox and disagreed with the ruling. I don't think her capable of overcoming her prejudices against artificial life forms.

ThunderclapSasquatch ,

Except she did. She even apologized to Data

xyguy OP ,

I think that's something that gets forgotten. Season 2 gets skipped through a lot during rewatches I know. All anyone remembers is her being racist to data.

She starts out mean to Data but she comes around by the end of the season. She is also a former lover of Kyle Riker, which could have made for a much more interesting dynamic for and with Riker if it had continued.

sk ,
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Agreed, probably one of the mellowest character, cool, calm and composed.

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