Windows machines determine whether they have Internet by pinging a Microsoft server, if there’s an issue doing that it would explain why Linux boxes on the same network don’t have this problem. As for the root cause, there’s nothing in your post that gives me an idea.
Oh, it’s not INTERNET they don’t get, they get no net at all. It’s “unknown network” for a long time until they finally display “<domain>” and only then I can access the LAN. From there on, everything works fine.
Also are your wireless clients on a different VLAN than your wired clients? Does the firewall treat this traffic differently in any way? Does DHCP give out different DNS settings than wired?
The wireless were on a different VLAN. Also changed that for troubleshooting. Now everything is the same and got the same firewall-rules. Which i also completely disabled. And no, DHCP is the same for all too.
NVM, I finally found the culprit by accident…my switch enabled STP (slow) by default. Switching it off or using RSTP fixed the delays. Thanks for helping anyway man!
I know this is stupid to ask but can you test setting up servers fresh from a .iso? No template, no domain join, no nothing that would create any predefined settings. If the issue doesnt persist, maybe there is a legacy gpo or something that forces it for domain recognition before allowing other network traffic. Or something completely different but we gotta corner the problem in with troubleshooting.
And also maybe create a script that’s being fired at bootup. The script could write the timecode and the “ipconfig /all” and “route print” into a textfile every few miliseconds.
This would create large logfiles but might help. Since if you are even uncapable of pinging local adresses with IPv4 adresses, maybe the network stack just simply doesn’t load fast enough.
Also some additional info might help with cornering it in such as:
is it only occuring on Virtualized Machines?
what Hypervisor is being used?
are there more than one kind of hypervisor brand? (For e.g. Vmware and Hyper-V)
is the problem also ocurring on Bare Metal Servers? (Windows Server OS being installed directly on the Server without usage of Virtualisation)
is your Domain Forest an old one, that you didnt create initially - or another way of asking: could there be GPO’s or Templates that have settings in them, that you dont know about?
did you already try to connect two servers together by directly connecting them to each other and sniffing the NIC output via Wireshark? Maybe you can use this to parallel Check the behaviour of the bootup script with the Routing Tables and IP-Settings. Maybe somthing sticks out weirdly enough to catch your attention?
NVM, I finally found the culprit by accident…my switch enabled STP (slow) by default. Switching it off or using RSTP fixed the delays. Thanks for helping anyway man!
Holy moly Networking Class… I’m getting flashbacks to my time when in the Simulated Cisco Environment we tried the SPT out and yes you are right. It takes a short but nonetheless weird amount of time for it to timeout.
Thanks for giving me the updates. If I or somebody else ever has similar symptoms maybe they will find this thread :D
I gotta say I think I would never had targeted SPT as the culprit. Though to be fair I only use dumb switches in my homelab and at the corp, the Networking department gatekeeps the nice stuff a bit :3
Anyway, I’m happy you found out and were able to fix it. <3
If I’d tell you that I was trying to fix that shit for over a year now and gave up 4 times already…
Yeah totally. Would’ve never thought the culprit there. But it started to make total sense. Only lan. Only physical. Even switching the nic off and on again. But not in a vm. There was only one denominator here. The effing switch.
Well, if you use pro-stuff at home, better be a pro lol. Thanks anyway man. It nudged me in right direction.
At this point I was willing to try sacrificing sheep or reading a manual.
You were ready for reading the manual. Darn good that you’ve made it without passing that line. Once you pass it you never come back to being sane again, you know?