Work Reform

13esq , in If you ever worked shifts and transitioned to a 9 to 5 job, how difficult was the change?

I hated shifts, I was constantly switching from days to nights, 9-5 is much better for me!

NutWrench , in Uber and Lyft now required to pay Massachusetts rideshare drivers $32 an hour
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If you have a job providing transportation, then you are on-call, whether you're transporting customers or not. And you should be paid for BEING on-call. This is a standard practice in several industries.

MSids ,

Eh, it's not quite the same as other professions. If a sysadmin gets an after hours call, they must work it. If a ride share person is offered a fare, they can accept it or turn it down.

GenosseFlosse ,

I think this will reflect badly on ubers driver performance score if you turn down to many short or inconvenient trips...

MSids ,

Possibly, but it doesn't have anything to do with being on-call.

Wogi ,

Well now they can stop pretending they're not employees and actually treat them like employees.

Lost_My_Mind , in Uber and Lyft now required to pay Massachusetts rideshare drivers $32 an hour

I have no sympothy for Uber and Lyft.

I used to work for an old school traditional taxi service. Back in 2003-2007. Back before these services took over. I had a personal issue with my employer, and so I left that company. I knew everything there was to know about the office side of taxi dispatching. I was going to find something else for the moment (which happened to be a laundromat attendent, as well as a hotel front desk manager), but in a different comany, run by different people, I could have become office manager of a taxi business.

Then uber and lyft came in.

They set their fares at unreasonably cheap rates. They made no profit for the first 8 years. They made the customers get used to the idea of fares being so low, just to drive the other traditional companies out of business. But here's the thing. They were bleeding money, that they made up for with other investments. A taxi company is in no other investing business. So it worked. All the other taxi companies in my area went out of business. Except for the one I used to work at, because they secured private contracts with the airport and schools. Other than that one company, 8 other taxi companies died.

Then, when everybody else was dead, Uber and Lyft raised rates DRASTICALLY in our area. We have a small suburb in Cleveland, named Lakewood. It's basically the shape of a rectangle. About 4 miles east to west, and 2 miles north to south. You could go anywhere in Lakewood, for $4.50 when I worked for the Taxi company. It's generally about 10 minutes one side to the other unless traffic backs up. I've seen those fares are now $12.75 before tip, and the drivers only really make money from the tips. There are 2 main roads in lakewood, both going east to west. Detroit is the more main of the roads, it has the number 26 bus that runs it's entire length. The other main road is Madison. The number 25 bus runs it's full length as well. You can either get an all day pass for 5 dollars, which gives you unlimited rides on any bus throughout the entire Cleveland bus system (RTA), or you can pay $2.50 per ride. No matter which bus you take, anywhere else in Lakewood is a short walk from where you got off at your stop. Less then a 2 minute walk I'd say. Even walking north to south, Detroit to Madison is a 5 minute walk. So you could even take the wrong bus, get off paralell to where you'd get off on the other bus, and still only walk 7-10 minutes.

So you can see how this would scale when you apply it to all of north east ohio. That same $5 bus pass will take you about 40 miles one end of RTA to the other. Our old taxi rates would have been in the neighborhood of $40-60. Depending on point A and point B's distance. Uber I've heard will charge $200 for that same distance. When they first came to town, they were charging $10. Just to drive taxi's out of business.

When I worked at the taxi company, you knew the drivers. It really felt like a TV show some days. You knew what certain people were going to do, what certain people were going to say, before they even walked through the door. During the bar rush (busiest time of the week for taxi's), they'd collectively fight the other taxi's trying to steal our orders, however if the customer called BOTH companies, BOTH companies would collectively leave his ass on the curb for intentionally wasting one of the drivers time. There wasn't full unity between competing companies drivers, but there was an understanding that they work together on some things. A taxi driver knew the city. A taxi driver knew the events. A taxi driver got a sense of who the passengers were by reading body language before they even said a word, and was prepared for trouble before it came.

These Uber/Lyft drivers are none of that.

"Take me to (insert the most well known street in your city)" "Ok, where is that?"

or "I'm going to (insert really well known concert venue)" "Yeah, I'm going to need an address".

I don't know if this is still true, but when I was working as dispatch, I would hear about how in London you couldn't even work at a taxi company, driver or dispatcher unless you passed a test of the local street knowledge, and local landmarks. You needed to know where every street in the city was, within 45 seconds of being asked, or you fail. I always thought that was pretty neat. Knowledgeable professional drivers.

Now you get into these Ubers, and the guy is like "Yo, bro, ya mind if I vape???". Zero knowledge of the city. Most of them only doing it one day a week. Despite having a preset price, they take the most random longest routes, because they rely on GPS.

So Uber and Lyft have tried to basically manipulate the system for an outcome that benefits their own corporate interests only. They don't give a shit about the drivers. The drivers don't even know each other. There's no sense of unity or pride like we had. It's all lowest common denominator bullshit, except for the price gouging, 90% of which goes straight to corporate.

So now the customer pays far more, to get a lesser quality driver, and the ride will take longer because the driver doesn't know what they're doing, and the drivers aren't getting compensated enough to make this an actual job.

I have no sympathy for Uber/Lyft.

Ragnarok314159 ,

Thank you for sharing that.

What happened to all the taxi medallions? I am wondering if they can make a return since Uber/Lyft are now price gouging beyond what was ever paid for a taxi.

pineapplelover , in Uber and Lyft now required to pay Massachusetts rideshare drivers $32 an hour

Damn that's a lot

Allonzee , in Joe Biden is old. So is Donald Trump. So are millions of other American workers
Acters , in Uber and Lyft now required to pay Massachusetts rideshare drivers $32 an hour

As someone who did uber and lyft, let me tell you that these algorithm are exceptionally fine tuned to meet $/hr over long term driving. In my area, it is tuned to hit close to 20/hr ± 4 dollars/hr. You bet that on some trips uber is taking larger percentage vs other trips to meet this target. This is clearly how their system works to squeeze every dollar out of both drivers and clients.

Note: this is with OR without doing promotions and specials.

Those algorithms will try their best to get you out of profitable areas and stick you with low pay rides once you pass this 20/hr threshold. Especially if you are doing promotions, as they know that you will more than likely meet this target $/hr mark.

Sanctus , in Universal basic income is 'straight out of the Karl Marx playbook,' financial guru Dave Ramsey says
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Ramsey added: "If the welfare system worked, people would be sprinting out of these government funded ghettos into a wonderful life, and instead they've set up camp there generationally."

Just more Protestant bullshit that ignores every study and trial.

catloaf ,

Not to mention bigoted and classist.

jpreston2005 ,

and racist! can't forget racist! Hey mr. ramsey ya think the practice of redlining had anything to do with people "setting up camp in ghettos generationally?"

Steve , in Universal basic income is 'straight out of the Karl Marx playbook,' financial guru Dave Ramsey says
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He said unconditional cash grants deterred people from working and reaping the benefits of success.

Just like the wealthy people who keep working after they've made enough to live the rest of their life on the interest.

agamemnonymous ,
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Or their children, who didn't even work to get to that point. If unconditional cash grants are bad, outlaw inheritance; it's just an unconditional cash grant awarded by genetic lottery. If working for success it's so paramount, make everyone do it.

Wiz ,

I'm pretty sure it's wrong, too. Every UBI trial I've seen has people improving their lives. Some get lifted into work. Some get necessary training. A very high percentage have their life and status improved, better than welfare.

Ramsey can duck right off with his bullshit.

floofloof ,

Those who only ever act out of greed and selfishness always believe these are the only reasons anyone could ever be motivated to act. The notion that people could work because they like it, or because it helps others, or because they would rather be active than inactive, is out of reach of their imaginations.

xmunk , in Universal basic income is 'straight out of the Karl Marx playbook,' financial guru Dave Ramsey says

Awesome, let's fucking do it.

doctortofu , in Universal basic income is 'straight out of the Karl Marx playbook,' financial guru Dave Ramsey says
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"Dave Ramsey is a dickhead that nobody should listen to, and he should fuck off all the way over there" says doctortofu, a random nobody on the Internet

rockSlayer ,

says doctortofu, a nobody on the Internet notable for being more correct than Dave Ramsey

Give yourself credit, even as a nobody you're much better than that jackass

queue ,
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I'd rather be a nobody who's right than someone people listen to who's horribly wrong.

Zaktor , in Universal basic income is 'straight out of the Karl Marx playbook,' financial guru Dave Ramsey says

It's worth underscoring that many proponents of UBI disagree that it eliminates the desire or need to work.

Or you know you could just reference actual studies instead of countering one dude's unsupported opinion with an unsupported opinion from "many proponents". You don't need to pretend like it's unknown and the best we can do it jot down opposing opinions from random people.

reversedposterior ,

Yeah pretty much what I would expect from a business oriented website to offer counterpoints as 'beliefs' so that they are dismissed as ramblings from crazy people

rockSlayer , in Universal basic income is 'straight out of the Karl Marx playbook,' financial guru Dave Ramsey says

He's going to lose it when he finds out what real socialism is about.

CaptainSpaceman ,

Solidarity

Vertelleus , in Universal basic income is 'straight out of the Karl Marx playbook,' financial guru Dave Ramsey says
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What the hell happened to this guy? A decade ago he was actually trying to help people.

pwnicholson ,
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He was always a grifter. When I was in college in the late 90s he had a financial responsibility program for college students to help them learn how to get out from college debt they were in the process of racking up. It was something like $40-50 a session for a 6-8 week course. That would be roughly $75-90 today.

I watched way too many of my friends give away money to that guy.

probableprotogen ,

My personal favorite was the fact my stuoid fucking high school trusted his shitty content for a personal finance class. Tmk its still in use there

Vertelleus ,
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In the 2010's we got the videos for free in the military, too many 18 year old privates spending all their paychecks on Mustangs by taking out payday loans or stupidly high interest loans to get them.

Hubbubbub , in Universal basic income is 'straight out of the Karl Marx playbook,' financial guru Dave Ramsey says

Boomer gotta boomer.

DessertStorms ,
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Plenty of young people agree with him, because this isn't a generational issue, it's a class one.

TheDemonBuer , in Universal basic income is 'straight out of the Karl Marx playbook,' financial guru Dave Ramsey says
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I'm sure Dave Ramsey has never read Marx, and I'm equally certain he is proud of that fact, so how can he claim to know what Marx did advocate for or would advocate for? I'm not a Marxist, nor an expert in Marxian theory, but I have read and studied some Marx and based on what (admittedly little) I know, I don't see a connection between Marxism and universal basic income. In fact, I think Marx would have been opposed to UBI, maybe even viewing it as something that would strengthen the capitalist class and weaken the working class.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

It is. Welfare states are perfectly fine expressions of enlightened self interest under capitalism. The owner class is guaranteed a relatively healthy population to exploit, the wage slaves are kept just happy enough to not rebel.

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