Work Reform

TheBeege , in [Common Dreams] Teamsters Say Contract Talks Have Collapsed After UPS Made 'Unacceptable Offer'

Oh baby. I hope UPS hurts and capitulates in a spectacular fashion to set an example for others: treat your workers well, or hurt then treat your workers well.

TomJoad , in [Common Dreams] Teamsters Say Contract Talks Have Collapsed After UPS Made 'Unacceptable Offer'
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Hold strong and stay true to your principles…

They need us more than we need them.

“97% of UPS workers represented by the Teamsters voted to authorize the largest single-employer strike in U.S. history if there’s no acceptable contract deal in place by the end of July.”

queermunist , in [Common Dreams] Teamsters Say Contract Talks Have Collapsed After UPS Made 'Unacceptable Offer'
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UPS is so fundamental to commerce in America that I suspect the Taft–Hartley Act might come into play. If I understand this bullshit correctly, the government can intervene directly in the strike - similar to the shit they pulled back in December with the railroad strike.

rockSlayer ,

UPS is a private company, they aren’t subject to the RLA and nothing in Taft-Hartley has anything to say about a single union going on strike.

USPS is the federal service operating like a business, and since they’re federal employees they aren’t supposed to go on strike, however that didn’t stop them in the 70s.

queermunist ,
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Taft-Hartley applies if the president determines that the strike would pose a significant economic impact. It’s actually pretty broad in that respect - been used against miners n shit. After the last betrayal I wouldn’t put it past this administration

bumbly , in [Common Dreams] Teamsters Say Contract Talks Have Collapsed After UPS Made 'Unacceptable Offer'
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OK, but if they stop working for UPS, who will they work for? Is another company on the market looking for 340k workers?

Notyou ,
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That’s not how strikes work.

Gray , in "People don't want to work anymore" - A tale as old as time
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Spent four years in college, went $60k in debt for it, and I still have to take fucking personality tests as part of the interview process for the one fucking interview I get for every 50+ jobs I apply to. Not to mention that entry level jobs are basically nonexistant and professional workplaces only care to get employees that already have experience from God knows where. So that leaves us starting out in our careers with the strategy of “fake it till you make it”, which creates further scrutiny during the interview processes. But no, apparently the problem is that people are too lazy. Fuck everything about the hiring process these days.

circuitfarmer , in "People don't want to work anymore" - A tale as old as time
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Alternate headline: Businesses fail to pay fair wages; young workers avoid

Goodbyeworld , in Setting "personal goals" at work is such bullshit
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Yeah, HR does a lot of weird shit. If you have a good boss, they will tell you what to write if you ask. Everyone thinks it’s bullshit except for the HR boss.

Cool_Name ,

Classic bullshit job. The business has to have HR, but there’s not really enough for them to do so they just make up bullshit that no one wants to do.

pizza_rolls , in "People don't want to work anymore" - A tale as old as time
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My dad used to work in manufacturing. He had a pension. He got yearly raises. He was able to switch positions to make more money and they paid for his training to be able to do that. Hell my grandma used to work at FUCKING KMART with full benefits including a pension!

Now people are paid fuckall, get fuckall for retirement, get maybe a 2% raise every few years, and companies want to invest $0 into keeping and training them. No shit no one is loyal and no one wants to deal with that shit. Go back to what you were doing before if that's how you want employees to act again.

For some reason my comment keeps showing up as a reply to this comment instead of a reply to the entire thread so let's just go with that lol

MxM111 ,
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Your comment look just fine for me, in the right place.

As for your point, I guess people prefer to get cash and spend it themselves, rather than to trust companies to invest and spend it in their name. If people were to prefer smaller salaries but larger benefits, then situation would be different. One thing is still important though - medical insurance. Getting insurance yourself, especially before Obamacare was much more expensive than for business to buy it for you.

hamster ,

They used to get cash and a pension. It wasn't an either-or thing.

pizza_rolls ,
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They were getting enough money to afford a house, kids, etc on a single salary AND a pensio

Entropywins ,
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Are you that stupid or being purposefully obtuse?

roofuskit ,
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In the US a lot of manufacturers keep as many people as they can as temp workers and just cycle them in and out often enough to avoid having to pay benefits or offer anything other than substandard wages.

AidsAcrossAmerica , in "People don't want to work anymore" - A tale as old as time
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I'm solidly middle aged, and I don't want to work either. But I don't want to be homeless either, so I'm going to get as much money as I can, for as little labor as possible. That's capitalism baby.

rockSlayer , in Setting "personal goals" at work is such bullshit

Ever notice how “personal goals” are supposed to be focused on work? That’s because companies are using it to extract more productivity from the same number of employees for the same price. They’re trying to exploit human nature through gamifying your workload for a dopamine rush. When this is realized it often feels condescending, because it is.

CrabAndBroom , in Setting "personal goals" at work is such bullshit

Personal goal: to achieve a better work-life balance.

How I achieved this goal: I played video games all night and didn’t do the assignment.

vinniep , in Setting "personal goals" at work is such bullshit

The problem is less to do with personal goals and more to do with how your company or manager implements them.

My team has their org goals, which is what our bonuses are based on, and each person’s individual goals that they set with me. Those goals have the boilerplate reviews, and we keep it metrics based. Did we miss, meet, or exceed our goals? There’s a formula, which everyone knows before the year starts (because we wrote them as a group and them got board executive sign off on them) that tells us what our bonus metric will be. We sink or swim as a group, myself included. Each person has individual goals related to their unique role, but those are largely “Did you perform at the level expected of your title and salary?” No fluff. No BS. Some of my people write sentences, some give concise bullets, some write 3 word answers. This isn’t the SATs, so it doesn’t matter how the info is provided.

Then we have the personal goals, which are 100% rooted in the question “what do you want next?” For some people, it’s to move into a more Sr role, for others to break into a new discipline (expertise in a particular area, management, or something completely different), and sometimes it’s as simple as “make $30k more per year” or “have more time with my kids in the evenings.” (For the last one, it’s usually easy - we are remote with few mandatory hours so it’s easy to modify a schedule to have free hours when needed) We set personal goals and I coach them to achieve them, but the only person they answer to if they don’t achieve them is themselves. It has zero impact on their performance metrics, bonuses, or raises.

I want to see everyone have the life and career they want, and we use these goals as way to work towards that. Our 1-on-1 meetings are NOT about their tasks. We have the task board and team syncs for that and I can schedule a 1-off chat if we need to address something. Instead we spend the 1-on-1 more or less on whatever topic they want to address. If something is stressing them, annoying them, etc, they have that time to bring it up and we can try to find a solution. One of my people has a goal to move to a city 9 time zones away. They also highly values their work/life balance, so flexing their schedule is likely not going to solve this so instead I’m helping them leave the team for a new job. Ideally I’ll keep them in the company, but if that doesn’t work out and they have to leave, so be it. It’s what’s best for them and everyone else here sees it - that shit goes a long way.

If you’re doing bullshit personal goals and nonsense 1-on-1 meetings, that’s the manager and culture at fault, not the concept as a whole.

seeCseas Mod , in "People don't want to work anymore" - A tale as old as time

businesses: “we had to raise our prices because of supply and demand, it’s just natural economics”

also businesses: “why can’t we get good workers at this shitty wage, we’ve tried everything!”

someguy3 , in No retirement: Why are more and more people over 70 still working?

Ok retirement used to be the last 5-10 years of your life - retire at 65, average life expectancy was 70 to 75. As average life expectancy goes up, it’s now closing in at 20 years - retire at 65, live to 83 which I think is new life expectancy.

It really shouldn’t surprise anyone we can’t maintain this. It was only doable for that brief period of cheap energy. (And yes, we should tax the rich in case anyone doubts my sentiments.)

Fleamo ,

Seems like that would only be a problem if real wages were stagnant, which they have been for 40 years but that might mean that THAT is the problem.

The typical worker is producing 2.5x the value that a worker produced in 1950, seems reasonable they should be able to afford a 15% increase in life expectancy (or whatever) over that same time period.

DefiantTostada , in No retirement: Why are more and more people over 70 still working?

When the government is expected to provide such generous benefits (half his salary in Spain, per the article) it seems that something has to change. It’s even good that some people are working past that age, and continuing to pay into it for others. It seems inappropriate to ask the people who are depending on the pension to reduce benefits or pay more- why not ask more of the true beneficiaries of their labor?

My US-centric view is less rosy, as we get WAY less in pension and limited healthcare…all the while there are literal billionaires who pay no taxes. Keep the benefits, tax the rich.

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