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ImplyingImplications ,

I know I’ve seen some articles on this but I can’t seem to find them again. There were studies done where they asked self identified right wing people to agree or disagree with political statements.

People were very likely to disagree with a statement like “I support universal healthcare”, but very likely to agree with statements like “I support laws which would ensure no taxpayer would enter into medical debt for obtaining necessary medical care”. Essentially, if you just described socialist ideology, without using the common words for it, a large amount of right wing people completely agreed with it.

Danterious OP ,

I remember seeing the same things a while back. This is why I always explain what I believe before I use the common words for it.

Tb0n3 ,

That could easily be assumed as an endorsement of lower health care costs, not universal health care.

Arakwar ,

But right wing also oppose government interventions to lower those prices. And no, the market will not fix itself. Some things are not bound to laws of supply and demand. When your kid is on the operation table, you’re not going to tell him « hey sorry it’s too expensive to keep you around, we’re putting you down ».

Draces ,

Just as much as universal healthcare could be?

Zorque ,

You're right, they're more concerned with results rather than solutions.

DarkGamer ,
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They don't form opinions so much as inherit them from authoritarians via social pressure.

Custoslibera ,

And the media. Yes I’m looking at you, Murdoch hacks.

winterayars ,

Americans are the most propagandized people on Earth.

DarkGamer ,
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More than the CCP? More than Russia? More than North Korea? Please.

winterayars ,

Maybe not North Korea, but the other two? Easily.

ExiledElf ,

That’s it - the stupidest thing I’ve read yet today

Honytawk ,

That is what a propagandized American would say …

winterayars ,

True.

Cylusthevirus ,
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How can you possibly say that when the CCP exerts such tight control over the parts of the Internet mainlanders are allowed to see?

saltesc ,

That’s authoritarianism. You don’t see the CCP edging closer to a civil war based on propagated polarising. AFAIK, that’s never been achieved in human history. I’m sure it’s unlikely to happen, but between all the international targeting from Russia, China, etc. and then the US’s own media and governments, the US is soaked in propaganda more than anywhere else. Absolutely surrounded by it.

But this is the interesting part. The more someone is propagated, the less likely they are to realise it.

winterayars ,

America doesn’t even need to do that. It just convinces people to not trust anything that doesn’t come from pre-approved sources and that works well enough.

wagesj45 ,
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Yes. The difference is that its corporations doing the the majority of the propagandizing rather than the government directly. But propaganda is propaganda.

lemmyseizethemeans ,

https://lemmygrad.ml/pictrs/image/b362710a-093a-449b-8355-a2066bd6bbfb.webp

RagingHungryPanda ,

I’ve noticed the same in conversations. When I talk about socialist theory, people agree 100%, but as soon as you say a buzz word it’s, “Now I don’t want full socialism!”

jubilationtcornpone ,

This has been my anecdotal experience as well. Most of the time when I ask my Republican friends their opinions on specific policies I find that their views are very populist leaning toward socialist. They just happen to also be motivated by fear and easily swayed by propaganda and will readily vote against their own interests in exchange for a false sense of security.

They are then confused and frustrated when the scumbags they voted for do exactly what they said they would do and it turns out badly.

Honytawk ,

What happens when you ask them such a policy, then ask them to tell you what they think the positives and negatives of that policy would be.

Only to then call it by the name they were conditioned to hate?

Would they become angry? Start rationalizing against the points they just made? Or accept their hate isn’t justified?

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