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ICastFist ,
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I vote for wrecking the rich’s yachts. There’s even a great capitalist reason to do it: the companies that build them might make new sales! Win-win!

TwoGems ,
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Better yet, train orcas to attack yachts!

Agent641 ,

Buddy, youre not gonna believe this…

ours ,

Gibraltar Orcas: “Way ahead of you there buddy”

clanginator ,

When you think about it, at that point at least the rich are spending their money again in order to buy another yacht, actually putting money into the economy.

It’s like trickle down economics, but we gotta shoot some holes in the water tower to make it trickle down.

eestileib ,

This is actually an example in The Wealth of Nations; Adam Smith considers whether a hooligan smashing a window is a benefit to society because it creates work for the glazier.

Smith concluded that no, it isn’t a net benefit because the glazier could have made a new window instead.

However, given that megayachts are net negative to society, I’m not sure how he’d view this case.

Klear ,

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Qwertzwertz ,

Building a super yacht means that dozens or hundreds of people work for the benefit of one person. As craftsmen, they could have improved the lives of tens of thousands in their community instead. As engineers, they could have built products serving millions.

Not to mention the natural resources used for one person’s benefit.

There’s nothing positive about super yachts (and mansions, private jets,…) being built. Don’t let the flow of money confuse you.

IHaveTwoCows ,

And here’s another aspect: all those craftsmen are taxed at a higher rate to cover for the losses incurred by tax cuts on the wealthy who hire them…literally working to pay someone else’s taxes. Rush Limbaugh kept selling this as “job creation”: if the rich get tax cuts “they’ll buy a private jet and someone has to wash it!” So the jet washer gets no security in a gig economy and has to pay his clients’ taxes.

clanginator ,

To be clear my comment was intended purely as satire. I definitely don’t view the construction of yachts as positive in any way.

SCB ,

When you think about it, at that point at least the rich are spending their money again in order to buy another yacht, actually putting money into the economy.

People who think the rich just have vaults full of money are so fucking ridiculous.

Poor people sit on cash. Poor people hide cash in their house. Almost the entirety of any rich person’s wealth is invested, because rich people generally pay smart people to handle their money.

Miqo ,

“We were very wealthy,” says Errol Musk. “We had so much money at times we couldn’t even close our safe.”

With one person holding the money in place, another other would slam the door.

“And then there’d still be all these notes sticking out and we’d sort of pull them out and put them in our pockets.”

You are willfully ignorant.

Daisyifyoudo ,

Poor people live paycheck to paycheck, 1 disaster away from bankruptcy and absolute poverty. What the actual fuck are you taking about??

bennieandthez ,
@bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Money goes from the billionaires to the millionaires that owns the yacht companies 😅

unfreeradical ,
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The argument is sloppy.

The working class makes gains when our work helps us as a class, not when we are forced to serve.

If the wealthy are able to support the creation of wasteful luxuries for their own vanity, then they must be able to support activities that help the working class.

The difference is that the latter may require some encouragement.

clanginator ,

My comment was satire. Stop arguing with the wind.

unfreeradical ,
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Many comments being posted are intended as satirical, but the actual apologia resembles satire so much that I think the intentional satire is rather creating confusion above all else.

clanginator , (edited )

Creating confusion for you maybe. Nobody else took my comment that seriously.

I said “shooting holes in a water tower to make trickle-down economics work” as a reply to someone making an obvious quip. IDK if you’ve just never been around leftist discussions, but joking about how fucked trickle-down economics is isn’t an endorsement of building megayachts that wreck the environment and provide no good to society.

Stop being intentionally obtuse and don’t blame others for your inability to read between the lines.

unfreeradical , (edited )
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Creating confusion for you maybe. Nobody else took my comment that seriously.

The general view is one I have reached after reading hundreds of threads or more.

clanginator ,

So then why reply to my comment with a hostile argument when there was already a thread in reply to mine which cleared up any possible confusion?

You can’t read satire, got confused and replied without spending the time to even read the other reply saying the same shit you said.

And you wanna blame satire for creating confusion.

If u smell shit everywhere you go, check ur own shoe bud.

unfreeradical ,
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You are applying overly broad extrapolations, distorting the sense of my comments, and also imposing an inaccurate view that I expressed hostility.

clanginator ,

So leading with “the argument is sloppy” is a nice friendly way of opening a conversation?

Please tell me exactly what I’m broadly extrapolating or distorting here, because your comment makes broad accusations without actually talking specifics, while mine does exactly the opposite. If anything, ur the one extrapolating bs.

You’re the one that chose to make a useless comment in the first place, don’t bitch when you get called out for it.

You just literally don’t know how to accept/respond to satire, and when you realized you took satire seriously, instead of saying “oh okay” u got defensive and offended.

Grow tf up dude. Let satire exist. Read other replies before adding to meaningless drivel like you did.

unfreeradical ,
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So leading with “the argument is sloppy” is a nice friendly way of opening a conversation?

I am rejecting your characterization that I have been hostile, which is also not supported by the text your quoted.

Your tone consistently has escalated toward one that is petty and oppositional.

Piemanding ,

Do a new Boston Tea Party except this time we launch barrels of tea at yachts.

FrostbyteIX ,
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I need a couple of their yachts to drag over some sturdy icebergs. Re-enact a much more expensive Titanic.

emeralddawn45 ,

Thanks to them you’ll be hard pressed to find any sturdy icebergs anymore.

jimbo ,

Protecting their yachts was their plan all along!

WhiskyTangoFoxtrot ,

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