catboss ,

I’d like to take this chance to say

Fuck Amazon. Fuck this video. Fuck Amazon. Fuck whoever thinks this is okay. Fuck their management. Fuck this union busting bullshit. Fucking make these assholes pay taxes. Fucking break their shit company up. Also fuck Amazon.

Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.

GladiusB ,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

That’s a lot of fucking. Anyone got any lube?

Zahille7 ,

Why bother?

Fraylor ,

Nah man, Amazon needs it raw, uncut, and dry.

Rayspekt ,

Raw-dogging Amazon

Mango ,

I got a cactus.

MargotRobbie ,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

Just goes to show you that unions work, otherwise they would not be so scared of it.

unfreeradical ,
@unfreeradical@lemmy.world avatar

You might not interpret the motive as based on fear, if you think your employer loves you wants to make you happy and feel protected.

forrgott ,

Umm, that wouldn’t change the truth? I guess I’m confused about what your argument is…

unfreeradical ,
@unfreeradical@lemmy.world avatar

If everyone already knew the truth, then most arguments would be without value.

Goblin_Mode ,

Are you trying to say that these videos work because most people do not know the truth?

If that’s your point then I agree. But it sounds kinda like you’re implying that everyone already knows unions are good and for that reason we should stop saying that they are. Which is patently false.

unfreeradical ,
@unfreeradical@lemmy.world avatar

Someone who relates to employers as though they were benevolent would reach a different conclusion from you about the motive for the presentation.

I think there is no great complexity beneath the observation.

Goblin_Mode ,

Someone who relates to employers as though they were benevolent would be incorrect in the case against unions though? Unions have shown to be nearly universally beneficial to the workers that participate in them. That is not my opinion. That is verifiable fact.

If a company was strictly benevolent as you’ve claimed then why contest the union? Why negotiate terms at all? Just hear what the employees en mass want and sign your name on the dotted line. The fact that this does not happen, and we constantly see company’s hire law firms to bust the unions or otherwise drag their feet to apply changes to company structure upon reaching a compromise is objectively evidence that the company is not benevolent.

If unions didn’t work then there would not be unions.

unfreeradical , (edited )
@unfreeradical@lemmy.world avatar

Just so you know, some people really do hold beliefs that are incorrect.

stewie410 ,

We didn’t get a video, but my first employer (Food Lion, a grocery store) did give us almost an identical spiel about once a year as “mandatory training”.

Thrife ,
@Thrife@feddit.de avatar

Holy shit is this badly done. Starting with no answers whatsoever, why unions are regarded as bad except for “but our customers and partners!” and then a huge load of infodump about potential signs…

STRIKINGdebate2 OP ,
@STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world avatar

Explaining why they think unions are bad requires them explaining what a union even is.

danwardvs ,

Not partners, but shareholders. It doesn’t beat around the bush. It outright says “unions are not in the best interest for shareholders”

IndefiniteBen ,

I was thinking about this the other day and while I’m sure they would never admit it, I think the reason Amazon is so anti-union is to prepare for automation.

Whenever they can reliably replace all the low-income employees with robots, they will do so. If employees had a union they might be able to stop or slow the replacement of people with robots.

HorseWithNoName ,

“Speed…and customer obsession are not typically associated with unions.” Gee, you think?

Usually giant companies like Amazon are overly concerned with optics. So one would think that the long list of “warning signs” to look for in your coworkers’ behavior would have made someone go “hey, maybe we should make this a little less fascist before we ok it.” Jesus fucking christ.

staticblanket ,

We’re not anti-union but we hire the actual fucking Pinkertons to stalk and intimidate you!

InternetCitizen2 ,

Makes me wonder if we might have battles with them again. States that are anti union also have stand your ground laws.

Staccato ,

I can’t get past the awful animated guy

chiliedogg ,

They couldn’t get professionals to do the video because the professionals are union members.

forrgott ,

And, again, your point?

Amazon is afraid of unions. So, you’re saying that some workers might not agree? That doesn’t contradict the previous statement. Are you arguing in favor of Amazon’s actions? Are you criticizing employees who didn’t unionize? There doesn’t really seem to be any point to your statements.

My apologies for sounding argumentive; my intention is simply to try to understand where you are going with this…

Flying_Hellfish ,

Warning signs include terms like “living wage”… fuck me for wanting to live, right?

matengor ,

Crazy

crashoverride ,

Yes, fuck you, your mother, your daughter, your son, your grandmother, and granddaughter f ok r wanting to b able to afford to not die.fuck all y’all! Happy fall

frogfruit ,

Union words: living wage, grievance, contract, representation

ThatFuckingGorrillaAgain ,

Yea, but I want my bug spray delivered to my door for a few small coins less /s

Fredselfish ,
@Fredselfish@lemmy.world avatar

Shit like this should be illegal and should allow company to be seized.

ram ,
@ram@bookwormstory.social avatar

It is illegal, but the US is completely toothless with enforcement on anyone with any amount of wealth.

Dragonmind ,

Thankfully, Biden recently gave the IRS some teeth to go after millionaires who rely on tax dodging. So there’s hope as long as a criminal isn’t put in charge to de-teeth the government again.

bobs_monkey ,

And hopefully the pendulum doesn’t swing too far next year for all that effort to be rolled back

MisterD ,

The penalties are also so minimal that it’s cheaper to re-offend

krimsonbun ,

“Workers have the right to unionize, but-”

Darkncoldbard ,

Now do the home depot one

Tenthrow ,
@Tenthrow@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t understand the media professionals who made this. How can you live with yourself?

SirQuackTheDuck ,

They’ve unionised and got fuck you money.

Tenthrow ,
@Tenthrow@lemmy.world avatar

“We’re not anti-union, but fuck unions”

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