I’m definitely working class, like I couldn’t stop working and coast the rest of my life on what I have saved now without really cutting everything to the bone.
However, I max out my 401k and iras every year. We also put enough money aside that our two kids will probably need to take out little to no money for their college educations. We are contemplating how many hundreds of thousands of dollars we can afford for a house renovation, and we can still take two comfortable vacations per year.
I’m very comfortable and know I am very lucky.
Which is why it’s absurd to put me in the same category as the people who literally have cut everything to the bone and still worry about making ends meet at the end of the month. While we should still team up against the owning class, our financial situations are drastically different and shouldn’t be treated as the same because that would do a huge disservice to their actual relative situation.
Oh yeah, I definitely do it for retirement and to give me kids the benefit of getting an education without being saddled with massive debt. Although, I think they should have some skin in the game for college as I hope it will make them take it seriously, unlike with me who partied way too much.
But make no mistake, we can afford these things because we live frugally. We both drive used hondas, our grocery store is Aldi, we review our budget every month to keep things in check, we walk everywhere we can, we rarely eat out, etc…
Sure, which is why I think we should still team up. However, that doesn’t change the fact that we are in such ridiculously different positions that it’s nonsense to try and pretend these are “made up” just to keep people down. Like my tax rate is higher, and it should be. There are very obvious reason these have different terms, and “it’s just conspiracy by the man to keep us down!” without a shred of evidence to back it up is just, well, mindless conspiracy shit.
Idgaf about your blatant insults defending yourself.
I’ve seen nothing to defend myself against. It’s just been a bunch of incoherent rambling coupled with empty insults. Although I have to say it’s hilarious to see someone so full of themselves accuse others of being narcissistic.
Well, you started off calling me an idiot, so if you failed to get your point across to someone you clearly believe is your intellectual inferior, then that’s really on you for not speaking to your audience. Shows a real lack of empath and arrogance.
There is no implied “if” there. The English is very simple and clear, if you didn’t realize what you were saying, you’re just confirming how delusional you are.
I’m absolutely serious when I say this: your grasp on reality seems tenuous. Seek help.
I don’t need anything. I’m just pointing out the absurdity of pretending we are all in the same boat, and that it’s all some conspiracy by the guy in his mega yacht to divide us when people point out that my boat will weather much more intense storms.
I absolutely agree. I just like to be honest with my kids and if I start feeding them stuff like “we’re basically in the same position as that homeless guy and the whole idea that we’re in different situations is just a conspiracy by the ultra wealthy to keep us down”… Well, they’re bright kids and will realize that I’m full of shit soon enough.
Also I think teaching them that we’re lucky to have what we have and to give (both monetarily and our time) helping out those less fortunate than us is going to do a whole lot more to create solidarity with the rest of the working class than feeding them be conspiracy theories.
I guess I wasn’t clear with that statement. It’s claiming that the recognition of these differences is a conspiracy to keep us down that I think is silly.
I figured that would be obvious because that is what the tweet is about, but I guess I should have been more clear.
So you think claiming that these terms were made up by the owning class in order to divide the working class is not a conspiracy theory? What is it then?
Oh, I see now. Can a conspiracy theory be an ideology then? Like I could agree that it’s both an ideology (a weird one, how it serves the owning class, I have no idea) and a conspiracy theory. But I still don’t see how it isn’t a conspiracy theory.
Make no mistake, the owning class is actively working against your interests ( i.redd.it )