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be_excellent_to_each_other ,
@be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social avatar

So left-leaning voters can’t ask for more? It’s by design. At some point the table must be overturned.

The thing to ask for is ranked choice voting.

Why not now?

You answered your own question already:

If he does get on the ballot as a spoiler, I won’t vote for him.

You said it yourself. In the current scenario this version of asking for more only makes the road easier for R.

Look what happened to Bernie.

I registered Democrat after decades of being registered Independent specifically to vote for Bernie in the primaries. I feel he was shafted by the DNC both times, just ever so slightly more subtly the second time.

But I can’t fault those who do.

Nor will I, but if your left leaning values cause you to cast a vote that's only handing power to folks far, far to the right of Biden/Harris based on Biden/Harris not being left enough for you, don't ask me to pretend that's not exceptionally self defeating.

admiralteal ,

If you're deciding between not voting or voting for a third party that has no chance of changing any major platform or winning an election, absolutely vote for a third party.

Either way you are consenting to the outcome.

Whether you vote protest to an unelectable third party or vitre strategically, what you do beyond the ballot box matters far more.

But the idea that a vote for the lesser of two evils isn't a vote for less evil? I don't buy that. Especially when the progressive needle was moved significantly under Biden, especially for climate.

LineNoise ,

There’s no latitude for other choices whilst first past the post voting systems remain.

If you want minor parties in the US then your first priority must be establishing ranked choice voting. Any other approach just hands power to your opponents.

admiralteal ,

Only if both outcomes are equally undesirable.

If they aren't and you don't participate, you are consenting to the outcome. Even if that is the outcome that was less desirable.

Everything you write here is the exact kind of cynical, pessimistic motivation many need to hear... in order to convince them to not participate. To not vote. And the kinds of people you're going to drive away are the ones you need active and participating to further your agenda.

These people who tell you that the Democrats are perfect and great and have no issues that are being invoked don't exist. Pretty much no one thinks that. And I'm sure, push come to shove, you probably do vote strategically because only a true moron wouldn't.

But this position you're out here arguing for isn't one that is going to let politics get pushed left. It's going to push it right. You're achieving the opposite agenda by telling people not to vote strategically.

Col3814444 OP ,

Mark DeYoung, who chairs the Clare County Republican Party, said he heard Chapman’s attempt to enter the room and opened the door after seeing someone flip him the bird through a window. “He kicked me in my balls as soon as I opened the door,” DeYoung said of Chapman, speaking to The Detroit News by phone from the emergency room.

Both parties are not the same.

SomeoneElse ,

I read it as he was outside. He walked up the driveway and the homeowner decided to grab his gun, call the police and detain him until they arrived. As a Brit the thought of someone holding me at gunpoint because I walked up their driveway is absolutely terrifying.

Col3814444 ,

They accuse Biden of doing similar and they spend months shrieking about it on Fox ‘news’.

But Trump does it for real, openly using the Government to punish his enemies, and… crickets.

Drusas ,

I would like to see more discussion around handling misinformation. The lines between misinformation, trolling, and someone being genuinely incorrect (which is still misinformation) can be blurry.

However, I personally believe that spreading misinformation is more dangerous than regular trolling. Of course, it can require research to determine whether or not something is mis/disinformation. Obviously this is a complicated subject and other social media platforms haven't even figured it out yet.

lowdownfool ,
@lowdownfool@kbin.social avatar

I don't see Politifact saying "the left" is "against protecting children". That's all you and the twisting of the narrative.

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