Revonult

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Revonult ,

I don't understand this comment. Why do you need to ask "The Left" what to do instead of not being misogynistic or promoting toxic masculinity?

Implies it's someone elses responsibility to provide you with alternatives to being a POS rather then just doing anything else.

Revonult , (edited )

Bad analogy. My choice of beverage does not affect other people.

Treating people with basic respect and as equals is no one's responsibility to "make sexy". Let's say the convo was about being racist. Is it someone's responsibility to make it cool to treat another person as an equal? Or would you be bigoted because it just how things are?

Edit: changed Influence to affect

Revonult , (edited )

The act of people calling out toxicity is the guidance. It is corrective action. It's disciplining a child.

Your orgional comment reads

Toxic man: doing something toxic

The left: Don't do that is toxic.

Toxic man: what should I do instead?

The left: ???? WTF ????

Toxic man: oh guess I am just gunna keep doing what I am doing if you aren't going to tell me what to do.

The answer is literally stop doing that thing. Obviously people need role models, young people are going to make mistakes, and when they make mistakes they need to be corrected. It is on the person to change their behavior. It isn't a failure of "the left" from preventing this behavior, it's a failure of those acting poorly to correct their behavior after being called out for it.

I just don't understand how someone can write a comment implying it's "the lefts" fault for not elevating people out of the absolute shit hole wasteland of ethics and behavior the GOP and right wing personalities have created. Like damn maybe you right, people like Andrew Tate are really a failing by left wing ideology to prevent them from spouting toxic nonsense.

Edit: Changed him back to them in last paragraph

Revonult , (edited )

I have to say I think your comment is very well written. You are much better with words than I. However, I fail to see where I am lumping people together.

Like I understand there is some discontinuity between your orgional comment and my approximation of how it comes across. I get what you are saying about swapping "young man" for "toxic man" and see how it seems I conflated the two. But the answer to their question is still "dont act like this". I am clearly not insinuating that all young people are automatically misogynistic just because the word was omitted. People acting misogynistic are (intended or not) perpetuating misogyny and if they fail to respond to correction, even if not directed at them, is not the failure of the left.

I am not sure what you meant by "makes your first sentence completely wrong". If you are referring to my use of "child" it was a euphemism comparing how social backlash for poor behavior is akin to disciplining a child.

It's clear that you want the best for young people and to keep them out if the right wing ideology. But blaming it on "the left" and not the source of the probelm is just ridiculous.

Edit: Deleted my last sentence about positive role models because it was incorrect. And added stuff below.

After thinking about your comments overnight I understand what you are saying and agree. The left needs to do more to educate and guide young people.

Revonult ,

Could be from a "Color Run". Marathon where they throw powder dye or paint onto the runners.

Revonult ,

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