andros_rex

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andros_rex ,

Where can you hunt and forage and live for free without a job? As much as I’d love to go innawoods, the law tends to frown on farming and sleeping in public parks. I have to pay to park at national parks lol.

andros_rex ,

In my state, and I believe most in the United States, you need a permit in order to hunt. Those cost money and often have limits on how much you can hunt, where and what equipment you can use. Hunting is more of a rich people’s (or at least hick rich) hobby here. Fishing also requires a permit with limitations, although I think those are easier to get around.

As far as foraging, it’s pretty difficult without knowledge of your local area. We had a large influx of Vietnamese immigrants after the Vietnam war, many families died because they misidentified a common mushroom thinking it was the same as a species back home. Can you tell the difference between a wild carrot and hemlock?

andros_rex ,

Okay, awesome, show us a haul! Teach me to get up my butt and go foraging. Are we just eating mushrooms and berries? Not that I mind, it’s giving Pythagoras.

Around here we have pokeberries, which are supposedly edible if you boil the fuck out of them. They can kill you if you don’t do it right though; that’s not something I’m willing to brave yet. You did call me out - I’m pretty lazy and I could grab pecans from random folks’ yards.

All of the edible mushrooms I know of tend to stick to wooded areas - do I need to start walking there to build a shelter now? (I’d drive, but again, nearest wooded area costs $10 to park and I’d rather just buy a rotisserie chicken at that point).

andros_rex ,

The high schoolers and their families I worked with in the inner city had no access to natural areas. I guess they could dumpster dive, but most places lock or contaminate their dumpsters. I’m not arguing that it is impossible everywhere. But foraging requires living an area that supports it, and having the knowledge base specific to that area. Some areas will have kind and knowledgeable people who will be willing to help educate, some will not. Foraging can be dangerous - deadly species can look like edible species. If you use online resources without training, you could easily misidentify a species - there are many many poisonous plant and fungi species that look identical to choice species. Areas can also be contaminated - the area I did my field work had extremely high levels of arsenic and there would have been no way I could have known if I wasn’t doing field work there!

Suggesting that one is lazy by being unable to forage for their survival is, well I’m struggling to find a word less unkind than idiotic but maybe naïve is better.

andros_rex ,

Yes, we all have the choice to go rogue, drive to the middle of nowhere with nothing but a tent, bags of lentils and rice, some other basic supplies. You need to find a place remote enough to be not harassed by forest rangers, forgo all medical care except that you can provide yourself, research enough to realistically subsist on nothing but the species indigenous to the nearest possible location one could do this. I think for any of US based folks - maybe Alaska?

I genuinely would enjoy hearing a good faith explanation of how one can do this. I fucking loved reading /k/ shit lol.

andros_rex ,

Rich people don’t keep their money in cash. It’s in assets - land, houses, businesses… They pay someone to figure out what they can write off. They also will know to the dime what the maximum amount they can donate and write off, distribute the wealth among family, and have access to all kinds of exotic financial instruments.

andros_rex ,

Isn’t that because “manager” means you’re exempt from overtime?

andros_rex ,

You are not paid for summers. This is a very common misconception. You essentially agree to give them an interest free loan every paycheck and they give you that money back during the summer as a “service” to you. And usually you are spending that time doing professional development or a second job.

andros_rex ,

I live in Oklahoma. I make $40k/year teaching. I can not afford the up front cost of moving to Seattle. Long term I’d love to end up in a corporate job, but because teaching is so shit and a lot of people are leaving, transitional jobs are difficult to find.

andros_rex ,

In my state, teachers don’t have to have their credential.

andros_rex ,

You’re ignoring the massive amount of students on IEPs who require special services, as well as the fact that online education requires family support and motivation.

andros_rex ,

You do not get paid for summer breaks. It’s the same as if you took an unpaid vacation every summer, but put some money in a bank account every month to cash out for it.

andros_rex ,

And people have stopped going into education. I graduated with my BS with one other teacher in my field. So many, many schools in my state are just going without.

Why do we not want to encourage folks to develop the next generation? Do you really want a society of illiterate adults? Are you going to complain when the person at the cash register can’t count to twenty?

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