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themoken ,

I think it's a stretch to interpret it as petty when it probably just gave Trip a bit of focus and let his 8 year old nephew shout like "that's my uncle!" or something. Real life astronauts get asked these questions all the time and they're practically deified in our culture.

themoken ,

I don't hate this. Seems like Skydance has less conflict of interest (i.e. alternative franchises) than the Warner Brothers merger talks from December. Remains to be seen if this is a good thing from a Trek point of view but... Could be worse.

Me at age six, at Star Trek: The Experience ( startrek.website )

Here is me at Star Trek: The Experience in Las Vegas, Nevada at the Hilton. This was 1997 (spring or summer). I got to go on The Klingon Encounter (which may have been the only ride-type attraction at the time). The line to enter was lined with status of Borg (First Contact had just come out the previous November)....

themoken ,

So cool, thanks for sharing.

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CBS Chief Says Star Trek Remains A Priority For Paramount, Answers Why ‘Legacy’ Has Not Been Greenlit

Some interesting quotes herein.

https://trekmovie.com/2024/03/18/cbs-chief-says-star-trek-remains-a-priority-for-paramount-answers-why-legacy-has-not-been-greenlit/

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themoken ,

I’m okay with it. My problem with Disco is how high stakes breathless it is all the time, visiting the timeline with a lower stakes Academy lens could be cool. Being far future means it won’t be a TOS/TNG cameo fest (SNW’s biggest flaw) and I wouldn’t mind being able to do some actual character development on Tilly / other Disco crew if they weren’t just constantly in mortal danger.

Of course it’ll probably end up being flashy bullshit again, but I’ll give it the benefit of the doubt for now.

themoken , (edited )

I am about 80% through it as an audiobook (waiting for it to come back from the library) and I agree. Great to listen to him, tons of non Trek info I didn’t know that is still quite interesting.

Not the best husband to be sure, but I do like that he’s pretty up front about it. Seems like his first marriage was effectively over as soon as he found American success and his wife (understandably) didn’t want to abandon her own career in the UK. Hard to listen to Capt. Picard be unfaithful (with Vash no less!) but I felt for him more than most egomaniac rock stars who fuck anything that moves.

EDIT: Also loved how he hates Thatcher for demolishing all of the programs he used to get trained as an actor coming from a poor background. There was a lot of mutual aid in his early life that seems non-existent today.

themoken ,

Non-existent is probably hyperbole, but I think it’s pretty reasonable to feel that way after your kids have grown and you realize you never made the time to really focus on them. Even if you have a nominal relationship later, it’s as an adult, it’s only certain times a year, it’s focused on the grandkids etc.

themoken ,

This is First Contact erasure and I won’t stand for it.

themoken ,

I… Don’t hate this. He meets Kirk too, which could be captain wish fulfillment. After his nephew is killed in such a stupid way he just exits reality and never returns.

First Contact, like you said, is revenge on the Borg and saving Earth.

Insurrection is then him inventing the perfect woman to save and finding the fountain of youth.

Nemesis he fights an evil, young version of himself, which has gotta be worth a few years of therapy.

themoken ,

Agreed wholeheartedly.

As some have mentioned, this could be a/another backdoor pilot for Legacy where Seven more or less takes the torch from Picard, similar to Picard taking it from Kirk in Generations - although that was obviously after TNG instead of before.

themoken ,

All of the arguments I see for Discovery are based on representation and that’s literally the only thing the show got right. It’s like yeah, it’s great to have a diverse cast… I just wish they were on screen doing something good. Trek lives and dies in the writing, all the acting, effects, and out of universe concerns won’t save it from absolutely horrendous writing.

If they’d have done SNW style plots with DSC cast, it would have been amazing from the beginning.

On the end of Discovery

I have mixed feelings about Disco ending. I really dug the first season’s look at a Federation at war, and following the person who arguably set that war in motion dealing with her culpability. Add to that a ship that is part weird science lab, part haunted house. And yeah, I could live with the Klingon redesign....

themoken ,

I’m not a huge fan of Discovery but I do hope we can get a balance between bold and new and the sort of nostalgia bait we’re in now. I mean, I love SNW, and it’s really filling out some canon gaps (love Uhura getting some real attention) but I really want to get away from cameos. They felt cheap in Disco S2 and they’re still cheap in SNW, but the writing is so much better it’s forgivable. PIC and LD are also very rooted in referencing old Trek. Hell, even Prodigy couldn’t resist making Janeway a (sort of) main character.

This is why I’m low key hyped about the Academy show, and am hoping it’s with Tilly in the far future. Give us Disco’s great, inclusive cast as peripheral characters, maybe even flesh them out more, but shift the focus to a class of cadets working as a team. Get back to that optimism and away from Burnham and whatever’s destroying the universe this season, without needing to root the show in old Trek.

themoken ,

One Take Frakes returns, you love to see it

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