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Episode Discussion | Star Trek: Strange New Worlds | 2x07 "Those Old Scientists"

LoglineAn accident while investigating a time portal sends Ensigns Beckett Mariner and Bradward Boimler through time from the 24th century, and Captain Pike and his crew must get them back where they belong before they can alter the timeline....

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An extremely fun episode.

One thing that jumped out at me was the adjectives used: “scientists, explorers, adventurers.” The episode reinforced what Starfleet as an organization and Trek as a concept are all about.

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But seriously what does the Koala know can we even handle such knowledge

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My nipples got stiff.

New (final ;_;) season can’t come fast enough.

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Depends on what you disliked about it.

But imo season 3 is where the series grows it’s beard.

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but it’s also Star Trek discovery

This is important; there’s a distinct feel to the narrative, cinematography, performances and dialogue that the other series def don’t have and kinda maintains through all four (soon to be five) seasons.

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They sneezed at it wrong… and the shutdown measures malfunctioned.

And they couldn’t very well just let the deuterium-creatures continue being butchered while they sorted it out.

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That was the only part of the episode I found weird.

Like congrats a captain that doesn’t just leave their ship for every little thing… but not even a lil’ interaction with them? Not even a “howdy?”

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Their early scenes kind of felt pissy in a way you don’t usually see in star trek.

I liked them, personally. I often think about what conflict would look like in a post-scarcity people… and sibling resentment, minor grudges (re: Una) feel like the sort of thing that stand the test of time.

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A Short Trek with them bickering, please.

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T’Pring’s pop wins the award for chillest Vulcan and most loyal malewife.

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Asking the hard-hitting questions.

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Me and @siewyuk, @psychothumbs and @YoBuckStopsHere

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So wouldn’t a human Spock (with biologically human nature, but the nurture that Spock carries from his life experience being raised as a Vulcan) actually be super rational and logical?

I reasoned that whatever tools Spock employed failed for one of two reasons:

  1. Vulcan responses to emotion are extreme: surprise isn’t just surprise it’s abject terror, happiness isn’t just happiness but absolute mf hype, disappointment is more like a spiral of depression. Since human response to emotion is much more measured by comparison, he’d need time to recalibrate… time he didn’t have.
  2. The procedure that removed his hybrid nature removed whatever moderation was done to him. As a normal human he may not even have a katra anymore, so it’s possible that whatever physiological changes that take place after kolinar aren’t there because not all of the physiology is there.
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It’s such a tragic moment because both their responses were reasonable.

T’Pring is about to be Spock’s wife, and it’s not simply a business union–she’s very much in love with him. She’s eager to be his partner and keeping changes in his life from her compromises that partnership.

The thing about Spock is that up to the end of the episode he’s still wrestling with the isolation that being bi-racial has come with–he’s aware that T’Pring should be let in but emotionally he’s never come around to that, having grown up at odds with other Vulcans.

What saddens me is that if Spock had communicated how his status affects his approach to full-blooded Vulcans (indeed if had even known to communicate it), I have no doubt T’Pring would have been much more forgiving… alas we sometimes figure out ourselves too late.

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This guy doesn’t have the lobes for Starfleet apparel.

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They’re like GLaDOS if she was… decent.

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Poor guy! Imagine being married to someone like his wife…

Bold of you to assume that her domineering personality isn’t exactly what he likes about her.

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We definitely didn’t get enough of his reaction to the human reveal.

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Probably the TNG films… or maybe call it “post Wolf-359?”

Defiant, Steamrunner, Luna, Akira, and my dear, sweet, beloved, gorgeous Sovereign; everything produced in response to The Borg just looked so fuckin’ good.

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A user of taste and discernment, I see.

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Yeah, I think Roddenberry’s initial vision, the nacelles were set apart from the living areas because constant close contact with the source of the warp field was hazardous (and who knows, in time the Alcubierre drive may prove him right).

I think over time there’s just been this implication that the risk was reduced/eliminated thanks to advances in technology (spurred mostly by the narrative), and they stuck with the look basically out of Aesthetic^TM^.

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Meanwhile, the Klingons put the nacelle inside their BoP. I guess they just YOLO it.

Which honestly fits for the Klingons, who probably consider safety as an afterthought.

Who are your favorite Trek reviewers/Youtubers?

I have a few, my fav is Jessie Gender, who gives insightful reviews but doesnt shy away from criticism of Trek. I also like how she looks at things from a gender critical angle, which is something few peoppe think about. Sean Ferrick is another cool one, as are the guys from Trekyards who are more focussed on tech and ships. Who...

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Jessie Gender, Steve Shives, TriAngulum Studios, Junkball (when he uploads), and he isn’t strictly Trek but I also like Certifiably Ingame.

Naturally Trek Culture is pretty cool too.

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Holy shit, I forgot about Ketwolski.

Hope they’re safe and well.

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My headcanon is that the radiation had already begun affecting his decision-making.

It’s a stretch, I know.

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SNW really is a masterclass in balancing episodic and narrative storytelling.

I’d love to attend a workshop/lecture with Goldsman, Myers, et al.

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