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cipherlab , to Politics in U.S. v. Trump Is the Most Important Criminal Prosecution in American History

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Corkyskog , to Politics in U.S. v. Trump Is the Most Important Criminal Prosecution in American History

The president in particular is very much a figure head - he wields no real power whatsoever. He is apparently chosen by the government, but the qualities he is required to display are not those of leadership, but those of finely judged outrage. For this reason the President is always a fascinating character. On those criteria Donald Trump is one of the most successful presidents the US has ever had. He has already spent 4 of his 8 potential presidential years being investigated for fraud.

GlitchyDigiBun ,
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It’s not that qualities like leadership and morality are required for the Presidency, it is the implicit understanding that the American people, as a whole, would filter those men and women with the best qualities among the populace to the top. However, instead, we have a hijacked political system where only 2 lobby-chosen candidates do not need to convince the populace of their leadership skills, only that they’re not as bad as the other guy. The 2 party establishment killed the presidency.

StarServal , to Politics in U.S. v. Trump Is the Most Important Criminal Prosecution in American History
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That thumbnail is hilarious. It looks like someone put the skin on the mesh the wrong way around.

LeylaLove ,

Yeah how is nobody commenting on this thumbnail? What the fuck am I even looking at?

Decoy321 , to Politics in Pence Makes It Clear Why It’s Necessary to Prosecute Trump

Man, you know things are fucked when people are calling Mike Pence a hero.

spaceghoti OP ,

I hesitated posting that one, because I am really not interested in boosting the stock of a self-admitted Christian Nationalist. But in this case, he did the right thing during the attempted insurrection. There’s no denying it, because if he hadn’t then it’s unlikely that anyone would have been able to hold any of them accountable. Especially not with the current court’s roster.

Dubious_Fart ,

I view Pence not stealing the election in the same vein as Hitler diving into a river to save a drowning baby. Yeah, okay, Thats great an all…but it doesnt change the fact that you’re a nazi piece of shit, nor does it erase any of your crimes against humanity, nor does it make you less deserving of a bullet in the brain.

which I guess is why hitler is better than pence and trump, because he did what they wouldnt, and ate the bullet. (Hyperbole and sarcasm before someone comes in to well ackshually me as defending hitler or something)

Decoy321 ,

Rest assured, I fully agree with you. I’m just flabbergasted by the absurdity of this whole situation.

jordanlund ,
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Let’s be clear here… Pence refusing to get in the car being driven by Trump loyalist SS saved Democracy that day.

His demand to return to work and finish the process was downright admirable, regardless of how shitty he is otherwise.

Dubious_Fart ,

He only refused to get in the car cause he thought his SS were in Trumps pocket and would disappear him. It was self preservation, not dedication to democracy.

MeetInPotatoes ,

This is a good point, people are the sum of their good actions and negative actions. They don’t cancel each other out though.

btaf45 , to Politics in U.S. v. Trump Is the Most Important Criminal Prosecution in American History

Reminder that Steve Bannon frankly confessed Trump's Start the Steal conspiracy plans to a group of Trump insiders before the election.

https://www.npr.org/2022/07/22/1112138665/jan-6-committee-hearing-transcript

…audio from Trump advisor, Steve Bannon, surfaced from October 31st, 2020, just a few days before the Presidential election.

Let’s listen. [Begin Videotape]

STEVE BANNON: And what Trump’s going to do is declare victory, right? He’s going to declare victory, but that doesn’t mean he’s a winner. He’s just gonna say he’s a winner. The Democrats — more of our people vote early that count. Theirs vote in mail. And so they’re going to have a natural disadvantage and Trump’s going to take advantage — that’s our strategy.

He’s gonna declare himself a winner. So when you wake up Wednesday morning, it’s going to be a firestorm. Also — also if Trump is — if Trump is losing by 10 or 11:00 at night, it’s going to be even crazier. Because he’s gonna sit right there and say they stole it. If Biden’s wining, Trump is going to do some crazy shit.

captainlezbian , to Politics in Pence Makes It Clear Why It’s Necessary to Prosecute Trump

Here’s to that asshole. He manages to be in the moral wrong on most issues, but managed to stop before hitting the “wants gilead to be a monarchy” stage which is apparently where the fucking bar is now

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