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mnglw , to KDE in This week in KDE: Wayland by default, de-framed Breeze, HDR games, rectangle screen recording

How is Wayland “ready” when critical things like idk, non QT apps quiting when the compositor crashes (and thus losing progress!) are called a “non showstopper”

klangcola ,

Yeah… This one actually is a showstopper. And I thought it was fixed, didn’t realize it was fixed for QT apps only

theHamsta ,

@klangcola @mnglw there are MRs to GTK, wlroots and SDL but the applications/framework will merge and publish the fix at their own release schedule

mnglw ,

so Wayland is not ready to be a default yet

klangcola ,

So it’s not a showstopper for KDE Wayland default because the fix is outside KDEs control?

It doesn’t really matter to end users though. So making the may-suddenly-loose-hours-of-work option the default seems unwise

theHamsta ,

@klangcola I'm not commenting on whether ot should be a show stopper or not. Just that it will eventually come also for non-Qt apps with MRs from KDE contributors to other projects.

mnglw ,

its not listed as one is the weird thing, because it totally should be

imagine drawing and suddenly your compositor crashes leading to your program to crash and you to lose hours of progress, but other QT programs are fine

should’ve used krita because that’s QT except you cant replicate your workflow in that program because it misses features (and also you dont like it)

This is a real scenario I would have to worry about. That’s a showstopper for me

klangcola ,
mnglw ,

I wonder why it isn’t anymore, because it’s been downgraded to Non-showstoppers

Zamundaaa , (edited )

How is Xorg ready when critical things like all apps crashing when the compositor display server crashes are completely ignored?

theHamsta ,

@Zamundaaa @mnglw xorg Apps don't crash when the compositor crashes, you can just switch out compositors/window managers. But xorg Apps crash when the xserver is crashing

Zamundaaa ,

Ugh, I’ve been working on Wayland too much… I meant to write display server. Thanks

Luci , to KDE in This week in KDE: Panel Intellihide and Wayland Presentation Time
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I might switch to the Alpha for on my daily runner just for the intellihide panel feature!

Is there a trusted copr with the alpha?

justin ,
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Luci ,
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Thanks, I’ll take a look!!

baduhai , to KDE in This week in KDE: Panel Intellihide and Wayland Presentation Time
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Panel intellihide

It’s happening. It’s actually happening. I can hardly believe it.

HKayn , to KDE in This week in KDE: Panel Intellihide and Wayland Presentation Time
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I will never get tired of reading these

Kudos to the devs at KDE!

highduc , to KDE in This week in KDE: the Plasma 6 feature freeze approaches

Glad to see all the Wayland fixes. Hopefully on the drivers side it’ll work out for most people/devices.

woelkchen ,
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Hopefully on the drivers side it’ll work out for most people/devices.

Gnome is defaulting to Wayland since years and for the majority of people nothing noticeable changed. Then there are NVidia users…

SlikPikker ,

I noticed two issues actually.

  1. can’t open drop down terminal without a window selected
  2. can’t use super + $ as my “go to desktop 5” - for whatever reason.
eskuero , to KDE in This week in KDE: the Plasma 6 feature freeze approaches
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I wonder how nicely the upgrade will it play with a $HOME that’s been running Plasma 5 for a couple of years.

I guess I should probably backup .config and .local beforehand

penquin ,
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Good point actually. I hope this has been thought of. I’m backing up those two, too. Thanks for bringing that up.

MJBrune , to KDE in This week in KDE: the Plasma 6 feature freeze approaches

Curiously is there a way to pull up a task manager when kde or Wayland freezes without dropping into a ptty?

Xirup , (edited )
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Ctrl+t+top/htop?

You can also can try KRunner, alt+space which is suppose to run apart from Plasma itself.

MJBrune ,

Interesting, thank you, I’ll have to check those out.

haroldstork , to KDE in Does Wayland really break everything?

Fantastic read

blackfire , to KDE in Does Wayland really break everything?

X11 was dead walking a long time ago. Not enough people put in the effort for Wayland earlier an now they are shocked there are bits missing.

CriticalMiss , to KDE in Does Wayland really break everything?

Wayland isn’t perfect, but it’s definitely getting there.

I think one of the biggest migration problems is that things have to move from the windowing system to the desktop environments, and they’re slowly adapting to it.

Fredol , to KDE in Does Wayland really break everything?

Wayland didn’t break everything, but Nvidia 545 certainly did

limitedduck ,

Holy smokes, it was so bad for me I switched to AMD a week later

Secret300 ,

Haha actually same! I went out to a pawn shop and found an Rx 5500 for $75

Secret300 ,

Holy fuck facts. I’m pretty sure Nvidia never said it was stable tho but a lot of distros updated to it.

bluGill , to KDE in Does Wayland really break everything?

I switched a few months ago to see how bad it is. Never found anything not work so I'm still using it.

aalam , (edited ) to KDE in Does Wayland really break everything?

lokalize (Translation tool) is, only application for me, not working with Wayland at all (There is bug reported about it). I am using KDE with Wayland on my daily laptop.

vaseline , to KDE in Does Wayland really break everything?
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@leopold my only issue was that nvidia won't recover if screen goes to sleep. I fixed it by not letting kde to put screen to sleep :hamster_dance:

ami ,
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@vaseline
Reminds me of the friends episode, where Chandler and Joey get free porn on the cable and can't turn the tv off 😃
@leopold @kde

maryjayjay , to KDE in Does Wayland really break everything?

I’ve been wondering for a while if Wayland supports remote display like X11/Xorg did

semperverus ,
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