KDE Connect and Phone Link only have partial feature overlap. I prefer KDE Connect but to claim that either is a proper alternative for the other is wrong, unless I missed that KDE Connect supports casting the phone's screen to PCs and launching phone apps from there.
There is scrcpy for that and you can launch arbitrary commands from KDE Connect too.
I'm fully aware of that but the scrcpy feature set is not integrated into KDE Conenct, therefore the features overlap to a degree but aren't the same. Phone Link allows to launch apps from Windows, KDE Connect doesn't offer the same. That's no diss or anything, just stating facts.
Want more exposure? Easy: Treat Steam Deck's game mode as first class citizen for Kirigami apps and release those on Steam, most notably the Angelfish web browser. Too bad whenever I inquired whether that's even under consideration, the replies I've got were along the lines of "just launch desktop mode".
The problem with gaming mode is how quickly it falls appart the moment you try to use it for something other than gaming. Something as simple as having more than one window is impossible under Gamescope. That’s pretty problematic when a toolkit decides to implement something as a stealth window, like GTK context menus.
So much text and yet you didn't read that I was explicitly writing about Kirigami apps.
I also think rather than repurposing Plasma Mobile applications like Angelfish it would be better to design new ones that are truly designed for gamepads. Perhaps Plasma Big Picture could be used as a starting point.
Steam Deck has a touch screen. At no point was I taking about docked use.
iirc Neon started by Kubuntu developers as a way to install the latest Plasma on top of current Ubuntu release.
Just for clarification: It was started by Kubuntu developers who were ousted by Canonical after Canonical in all seriousness stated that their license on top of the existing FOSS licenses somehow trumps those FOSS licenses, mot notable the GPL. Canonical’s license says that binaries compiled by Canonical can only be redistributed after getting permission by them which is nothing but a GPL violation. The Kubuntu developers said publicly that Kubuntu respects the GPL and obviously that part of the Canonical license is void.
Canonical kicked them out and replaced them with more subservient people. Canonical later changed their license to say that the original FOSS license takes precedence, that means everyone creating an Ubuntu derivative must still get permission by Canonical to redistribute binaries compiled from MIT-/BSD-licensed sources.
The former Kubuntu people then did their own thing. It is and never has been clear why upstream KDE had to be the new home for them. IMO it’s wrong that upstream KDE gives special treatment to Ubuntu, even moreso with Canonical‘s shenanigans around pushing Snap.
I’m currently using gnome and I’d like to switch to plasma, but I can’t seem to find a decent wayland-compatible virtual keyboard. What would you guys recommend?
Related to a previous post about Thunderbird collecting 6.4 million dollars in 2022 and KDE only 200k, I’m wondering why people do not donate or do not donate more to KDE....
Krita has far more Windows users than Linux users, so does GCompris, and very probably Kdenlive too, to mention 3 of the bigger (in terms of userbase) KDE products.
And all of them combined have fewer users than Firefox and Thunderbird which both nag people to donate.
Many more KDE app projects are currently compiling their products for several OSes (Linux, Windows, macOS, Android and iOS)
With exceptions like Krita, Windows support is second tier for most (things like weird icon sizes and window positions) and even for applications that support Windows well, there is little interest in promoting the Windows version, even though there’s a decent chance this would improve the developer pool. I’m fairly convinced that had Windows support been a bigger priority, the KOffice/Calligra would have had a chance to survive against OpenOffice/LibreOffice, especially considering that it could have worked with Kontact the way MS Office has Outlook. Kontact even had reasonably good Windows support before the move to the whole Akonadi thing.
KDE has always aimed to put people in control. We don’t want to hand over control to anybody else: not to some service providers […] We believe that freedom is a prerequisite for true control. Some may feel in control of a proprietary application as long as it obeys their commands, but without the freedom to make changes and share them, they are entirely reliant on the vendor’s benevolence for this apparent ‘control’.
That doesn’t sound right, how can they have other designers contribute then? Maybe that’s just a placeholder project for now?
🤷 I merely searched for Jetpack on KDE Invent.
I can only guess they went with Figma because the available designers are most familiar with it rather than Inkscape
Building a complete Plasma desktop with icons and such should not depend on any proprietary software for reasons KDE’s own Vision document states. If people want to make a 3rd party icon set hosted on GitHub or wherever, fine, but IMO the building blocks of “core” KDE software should be 100% FOSS.
FreeBSD has supported Plasma for a long time, but on OpenBSD, it’s been a long time coming. I believe a KDE desktop hasn’t been available on OpenBSD since Plasma 4, perhaps even KDE 3.
I’m coming for a *deb/*buntu world and I would find useful if I have a cheat sheet for Tumbleweed with the most basic commands and especially if there is something that correlates them with commands I’m already familiar....
I am running Kubuntu 23.10 on Wayland and Firefox (snap version) does not show a Minimize or Maximize Button anymore in the top right corner (see attached screenshot)....
Why use flatpak when you can just use deb repositories?
I listed one way that I know works because that’s how I use Firefox on my Steam Deck (which in turn uses Plasma 5 as desktop, same as Kubuntu). If a deb package from some PPA works just as well: great.
When it was still based on QtWebKit (and named QupZilla), it had relatively little overhead, so it was a better choice for low end PCs than fully featured browsers. My guess is that those descriptions are a leftover.
And yet, when Qt Company still made QtWebKit, instead of using the stable branches Apple used for Safari, they made releases from svn trunk and then tried to stabilize it with a small team. No idea when Qt Company keep trying to make a browser module for so long and keep failing all the time…
I prefer having at least a few privacy extensions and a better ad blocker installed so it’s a deal breaker for me for daily driving.
Too bad KDE rather develop three(!) completely independent browsers than to just combine resources and all three are based on QtWebEngine. So there is Falkon which only has a desktop GUI. Then there is Angelfish that has a smartphone GUI, a tablet GUI, and also a desktop GUI. Recently they released a browser for TVs – why they did not just add a fourth GUI to Angelfish: Nobody knows. Why Angelfish wasn’t just developed as Falkon 3.0: Nobody knows.
There’s a difference between a severe bug and a bug that a lot of people would want to see resolve.
Yeah, it would be great if that would be taken into consideration as well.
But at the end of the day, keep in mind they all dev do it because they want to, nobody force them, so we should be glad to have what we already have imo
Several developers are being paid to work on KDE software from money me and others spent.
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I don’t understand people who don’t use inverted scrolling. That’s just so counter-intuitive.
Wait, so when you need to go to the bottom of a page, you grab the handle of the scroll bar and actually WANT to have it move in the opposite direction of two finger scrolling?
the goal is to use the same action as you would use in a touch screen:
Whose goal? Why? A touchpad is not a touch screen.
it only seems illogical if you’ve not been using natural scrolling. it is, in fact, incredibly intuitive if you haven’t built up muscle memory for the opposite
No, there is nothing intuitive about using two different scroll directions.
It just depends on your abstraction you’re mentally using. If you think of a sliding moving visual window on a document, then you like the scroll bar mental model. If you think of moving the content itself, then you like the phone scroll model.
But it’s two different directions whether you grab the scrollbar handle or move two fingers. Why would I need to learn two different movement directions for a single scroll direction? That makes no sense and it’s not natural.
use of the words “sane” and “normal people” suggest that you still don’t understand one of the fundamental tenants of linux: freedom to choose
I’m not advocating to take away the option. Never have. OP’s question was about the default and frequently people claim that inverted scrolling was the “natural” way. Funny how you feel attacked by me using similar terms for non-inverted scrolling but have no problems when people claim that inverted scrolling is the natural way as if everyone else was acting unnatural…
Luckily it’s all configurable. Plasma used single-click to open for many years because some maintainers believed that “people use that in web pages, so it’s natural”, completely ignoring that it requires all kinds on mental gymnastics to do simple tasks like selecting a file… but most users and all sensible distributions changed that.
The most common behavior is now what Steam Deck does and it defaults to neither in Desktop Mode.
windows has natural scrolling and tap to click / two finger tap to right click, and that’s the biggest market share
Yes, Windows has the biggest market share among Windows users. The biggest driver to get Plasma in the hands of users is currently Steam Deck and that throws both conventions out of the window and defaults to actual presses to click and circular movement to scroll down in Desktop Mode.
please don’t tell me you’re advocating for two trackpads on laptops, and a swirly motion for scrolling
I’m advocating about not to change defaults based on a propaganda term invented by Apple declaring all people who are not into inverted scrolling to be against nature.
Had you read my comments, you would know that my argument is consistency in movement whether the scrollbar handle is grabbed or two fingers are placed and explicitly not whatever bad behaviors are taught on whatever bad platform.
it was "kde should follow the most common behaviour. windows market share outnumbers macos + linux
OK, cool. Then just copy Windows in everything. Ship Edge and Candy Crush by default, put a huge Bing search bar in the middle of the desktop, ignore usability basics like Fitt’s Law and center the main panel leading to the “start button” move all the fucking time, add nag screens whenever users go off the path of Microsoft-set defaults, and basically take away all arguments for “I’m annoyed by Windows, I want to move somewhere else.” Greatest idea ever…
Oh great, so from disabling single mouse click to disabling that tap thing. I had hoped that in Plasma 6 I’ll have one few option that needs changing. Well, at least it’s configurable…
Seems so but I also don’t understand the Akonadi hate. When I still used POP3, mails appeared to be in the inbox twice but that was merely a cosmetic problem, IIRC. After migration to IMAP, I don’t think I ever had problems. That said, I’m currently not using any KDE PIM apps for unrelated reasons (my main PC is currently running Windows and Thunderbird is so much worse than KMail).
Then you did not try everything. With Linux a fresh installation is basically never needed. Last I’ve checked Akonadi is just a cache, never the actual data.
Thunderbird’s entire GUI locks up when a notification pops up. KMail can’t do that.
Thunderbird runs under Windows, KMail sometimes has at best an experimental Windows release but usually none at all. Decide for yourself how important Windows releases are for a Linux crowd.
I don’t care for them but Thunderbird has extensions.
Currently KDE uses Gitlab at invent.kde.org. Gitlab has been known to not be entirely open. I wonder if KDE has considered moving over to Gitea/Forgejo/Codeberg instead? And if not, how come?
KDE Apps Initiative ( carlschwan.eu )
It's official... KDE Neon *is* a distro!! ( invent.kde.org )
The mental pretzel is finally over.
Plasma Wayland Virtual Keyboard
I’m currently using gnome and I’d like to switch to plasma, but I can’t seem to find a decent wayland-compatible virtual keyboard. What would you guys recommend?
Why don't you donate (or donate more) to KDE?
Related to a previous post about Thunderbird collecting 6.4 million dollars in 2022 and KDE only 200k, I’m wondering why people do not donate or do not donate more to KDE....
Breeze Icons Update! ( anditosan.wordpress.com )
Plasma is Finally on OpenBSD ( nitter.net )
FreeBSD has supported Plasma for a long time, but on OpenBSD, it’s been a long time coming. I believe a KDE desktop hasn’t been available on OpenBSD since Plasma 4, perhaps even KDE 3.
This week in KDE: the Plasma 6 feature freeze approaches ( pointieststick.com )
Slowroll repo move + upcoming version bump | openSUSE Factory Mailing List ( lists.opensuse.org )
Slowroll repos have been moved to a new location....
This week in KDE: Wayland by default, de-framed Breeze, HDR games, rectangle screen recording ( pointieststick.com )
Looking for a cheat sheet for Tumbleweed with basic commands and ideally their *deb/*buntu equivalent
I’m coming for a *deb/*buntu world and I would find useful if I have a cheat sheet for Tumbleweed with the most basic commands and especially if there is something that correlates them with commands I’m already familiar....
Does plasma desktop support .webp images as wallpaper?
I use Endeavour OS (Arch based btw) and I’ve noticed that when I select to choose a new image as my wallpaper, it doesn’t support the .webp format....
Firefox (snap) on Kubuntu 23.10 does not have Minimize, Maximize Buttons ( lemmy.kde.social )
I am running Kubuntu 23.10 on Wayland and Firefox (snap version) does not show a Minimize or Maximize Button anymore in the top right corner (see attached screenshot)....
Falkon browser poor performance
I do quite like the look and use of Falkon and would gladly ditch Firefox for it....
kde bugzilla spamming me about some ancient resolved bug ( i.imgur.com )
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This week in KDE: tap-to-click by default ( pointieststick.com )
A small explainer graphic about Kalendar → Merkuro ( lemmy.kde.social )
Would KDE switch over their git hosting to Gitea/Forgejo/Codeberg?
Currently KDE uses Gitlab at invent.kde.org. Gitlab has been known to not be entirely open. I wonder if KDE has considered moving over to Gitea/Forgejo/Codeberg instead? And if not, how come?
KDE Social Lemmy instance is live
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