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WEAPONX , in Is it worth closing the lid on a toilet before flushing?

But how do i use the brush then, if the lid is closed? Don’t you use the brush while simultaneously flushing the toilet?

Reborn2966 ,

you don’t, most of the time is not needed. if it is, a sencond lighter flush with the brush thing will take care of everything that is still there. with a controlled flush you just let some water run.

andthenthreemore ,
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Er, no. Because if you do that the brush just gets covered in shit.

Beryl , in Is it worth closing the lid on a toilet before flushing?

I think this video should convince you it’s absolutely worth it.

Deebster OP ,
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That's a great demonstration, and also makes me want to go clubbing.

Sal ,
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Woah, cool video! I think this video deserves its own post. I just need to figure out which scientific community it is most relevant to … Physics? Epidemiology? Hmmm 🤔

SoleInvictus ,
@SoleInvictus@lemmy.world avatar

Great video. Clearly, the only viable option is to never flush again. All of our work toilets lack lids, so we’re just gonna start stacking turds.

/s

shawnshitshow , in Is it worth closing the lid on a toilet before flushing?

Just think about all those public restrooms with like 8 toilets in a small area, all of which have no lids (not like anyone would put them down anyway) and use those super high pressure flushing mechanisms!

hmancuso , (edited ) in Is it worth closing the lid on a toilet before flushing?
@hmancuso@lemmy.world avatar

I think someone urgently needs to come up with one of these solutions:

  1. The foot-operated lid;
  2. The toilet with flush and suction;
  3. The Jedi throne (a Jedi-style toilet lid activated by hand movements) and lastly
  4. The Terminator (a time-activated flames of hell) solution. The time-activated mechanism locks the toilet door after the user leaves and burns the entire compartment at solar flare temperatures.
MrPoopyButthole ,

Jim Jeffries had a whole bit on his show about his idea for a foot pedal that lifts and lowers the seat, just begging for anyone to make it.

Some day I’ll buy a bass drum kick pedal and a 3D printer and make it happen.

I’ve only found one product that does this, it’s all plastic, very expensive, and the reviews are terrible.

hmancuso ,
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Jim’s a clever guy. We could even seek inspiration in some trash cans that have embraced the pedal idea. Can you believe we’re in the 21st century, surround by ai systems, risking extinction for various reasons, and unable to solve the toilet seat conundrum?

Ilikepornaddict , in Is it worth closing the lid on a toilet before flushing?

I seem to recall that Mythbusters episode proving the exact opposite. They showed that fecal matter definitely gets sprayed all over the bathroom when the lid is up when flushed.

slackassassin ,

I watched that episode recently. They just proved that there are shit particles everywhere, and the expert agreed.

Deebster OP ,
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You may be right; it was about 20 years ago I watched it. Perhaps their conclusion was it happens just as much when the lid is down.

echo64 , in What if the measurement device in the double slit experiment were a light year away?

When you say zoom in, what you are actually asking is what if the wall was a light year away, and you’re building the delayed choice version of the experiment, details here …m.wikipedia.org/…/Delayed-choice_quantum_eraser

But basically, the universe knows, and you can’t worm your way around it.if you detect which slit the photons flow through, then you lose the interference pattern.

AbouBenAdhem , in What if the measurement device in the double slit experiment were a light year away?

A measurement device is necessarily local: if it’s “zooming in” from a light year away, it’s using transmitted particles to observe—and those particles are traveling (and entangled) with the particles you’re trying to observe.

jesterraiin , in What if the measurement device in the double slit experiment were a light year away?

If the measurement device were a light year away and were precise enough to “zoom in” and see which slit the electrons went through, what would happen on the final screen?

That level of precision implies technological advancement, that would result with far better equipment to perform the test and measure the results, providing they would be still needed.

I know it sounds like an attempt to brush the question off, but it’s Spherical Cow and/or Newton’s Flaming Laser Sword territory. 😉

krayj , (edited ) in What if the measurement device in the double slit experiment were a light year away?

There is a great article on space.com that covers this exact scenario.

space.com/667-quantum-astronomy-cosmic-scale-doub…

First, though, your premise is a bit off. Zooming in still wouldn’t change the speed of light or change how fast the photons take to get from point A to your zoom lens. Zooming doesn’t give you a time or distance shortcut - all zooming does is decrease the angle of view of whatever you are pointied at. The only thing that matters in the double slit experiment is whether you observe them enroute or if you observe the screen after impact. If the screen were between you and the photon sources and you zoomed in, the photons would still hit the screen first and the photons you observe through the lens would come after.

The TL/DR of that article I cited earlier is that we still know the field would collapse. The more interesting question (and the one they pose in the article that remains unanswered) is: how fast does the collapse propagate back to the source? Is the propagation delay of the collapse instant/infinite (like what would be described by entanglement) or is the speed of the collapse still subjected to the speed of light (which is the same for the propagation delay of gravitational waves)?

Brokkr , in What if the measurement device in the double slit experiment were a light year away?

The “observation” doesn’t occur when a person sees the result, but rather when the electron or photon interacts with the device (in this case the wall). The wall is making the observation. In this situation “observation” doesn’t have the traditional meaning, but rather refers to an interaction event.

So the same average result will happen no matter where the device is, the only thing that changes is its proximity to you.

JoBo , in Since we can develop new allergies throughout life, and now I eat peanut butter every day, is it possible that suddendly one day I get an allergic reaction so strong it kills me?

There’s increasing evidence that it is lack of exposure to some allergens which causes problems. Current advice is to eat peanuts during pregnancy and to introduce peanut butter to baby diets early to reduce the risk of peanut allergy.

So you’re more likely to be reducing the risk. But there’s a lot we don’t properly understand yet, of course.

Simple summary article: Give babies peanut butter to cut allergy by 77%, study says

There had been long-standing advice to avoid foods that can trigger allergies during early childhood. At one point, families were once told to avoid peanut until their child was three years old.

However, evidence over the last 15 years has turned that on its head.

Instead, eating peanut while the immune system is still developing - and learning to recognise friend from foe - can reduce allergic reactions, experts say.

FlowVoid , in Area of gravity at the center of large, dense celestial bodies...

Inside a sphere of constant density, gravity is linearly related to distance from the center.

So for example the Earth has a radius of ~4000 miles. Assuming it has constant density, you would experience 0 gravity at its center, 0.1% of surface gravity at 4 miles from the center, 1% of surface gravity at 40 miles from the center, half of surface gravity at halfway to the surface, and so on.

Jeredin OP ,
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So for the Sun, taking its density/pressure into account, will the same gravity gradient exist but on a much larger scale?

Thank you

FlowVoid , (edited )

A linear relationship would exist if the sun were uniform in density, but it isn’t.

Though there is still a nonlinear change in gravity as you approach the center of the sun.

Jeredin OP ,
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So the larger the star, given that most (or all) aren’t uniform, there will come a gradient of gravity at its center that one can’t even call it low gravity - it’s heavy material is simply churning too much for their to be a stable center of gravity?

FlowVoid ,

I think the best way to visualize it is that when you are inside a star, you are effectively “standing” on a smaller star. Everything behind you can theoretically be ignored. When you are very close to the center, you are standing on a very tiny star.

Jeredin OP ,
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So instead of the hole density from one side to the other, I only have the density from the center to its surface, am I understanding that correctly?

FlowVoid , (edited )

I’m not sure what you mean by “surface”.

Imagine you are standing on the surface of Earth, and you weighed 200 pounds.

Now imagine Earth were magically transported to the center of the sun, completely replacing an equal volume of solar core. Inside the very middle of the sun, standing on planet earth, you would still weigh 200 pounds. The gravity of all the solar mass surrounding the Earth would cancel out.

If you traveled upwards, to the surface of the sun, your weight would increase. At the sun’s surface, you would weigh 5400 pounds.

Spzi , (edited ) in Area of gravity at the center of large, dense celestial bodies...

There is no area or volume of zero gravity inside planets or stars. It exists as a point, but since it’s a point, it has zero size.

Go in any direction from that point, no matter how little. Now more mass is behind you than in front of you; you feel gravity pulling you back.

Edit: Seems I was wrong, sorry.

“If the body is a spherically symmetric shell (i.e., a hollow ball), no net gravitational force is exerted by the shell on any object inside, regardless of the object’s location within the shell.”

Jeredin OP ,
@Jeredin@lemm.ee avatar

So it’s not zero but low gravity and increases the more mass-I leave behind me as I move out from the center?

Spzi ,

That’s exactly what I meant, yes.

I’m not sure if it was correct though, edited my previous comment. Though maybe you did not ask about hollow bodies.

octoperson , in Area of gravity at the center of large, dense celestial bodies...

If you had a planet that was hollow in the center*, the entire hollow region would have zero gravity. You could have a thin-skinned planet with the entire interior an empty weightless void. I doubt any planets like this actually exist.

  • Assuming radial symmetry. If you can represent the planet as concentric spherical shells then you’re good.
awwwyissss ,

A center of gravity is a single point and couldn’t be expanded to fill a planet’s interior, even if the space was only 1m^3

Rayleigh ,

You’re right but that was not the point. The comment just explained that at any point inside a hollow sphere gravity forces cancel out so that effectively there is no gravity.

Spzi ,

If you had a planet that was hollow in the center*, the entire hollow region would have zero gravity. You could have a thin-skinned planet with the entire interior an empty weightless void. I doubt any planets like this actually exist.

  • Assuming radial symmetry. If you can represent the planet as concentric spherical shells then you’re good.

I thought this was wrong, but it is true:

Brb fixing my other comments.

octoperson , (edited )

Yeah it’s a pretty counter intuitive result. I’d expect a greater pull of gravity towards the nearer side, but it turns out to be exactly cancelled out by the greater mass on the further side.

E: oops, looking at your edited comment, I should stress this is only for hollow bodies. Your comment pre-edit was correct for non-hollow bodies. If you’re part way to the middle of a planet, you can think of the planet as two sections, a small sphere for the part that’s below you, and a larger hollow shell for the rest. You experience no gravity from the outer shell, so only feel gravity of the smaller mass below. 10m from the earth’s center, you feel equivalent gravity to if you were on a 10m radius iron sphere.

Anticorp , in if something happened to the black hole at the center of our galaxy, could we know about that problem before it affected us?

Nothing will happen to the black hole, except for its continued growth. At least not anything on time scales that are meaningful for humanity. We’ll be long gone before any observable changes happens to any black holes.

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