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Prodigy is in about the right time period too.

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And yet I’m DS9 Bashir says that murdering a clone of yourself is still murder. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ But maybe that was Bayorian law.

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That works. So it’s abortion not murder.

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I’ve worked 3pm-11pm that’s nice because you can get up at about 6 and do tonnes in the morning before work. I’ve also worked 4am-12 that’s nice because you’ve got him midday to going to bed at about 10 to do shit you want.

9-5 or thereabouts sucks because you don’t really have much time in the morning or the evening.

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The question to me isn’t whether Janeway murder Tuvix, but was the murder of Tuvix justifiable. In Star Trek 2 Spock famously states “the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few” in TNG Thine Own Self Troy learns that sometimes an officer must order a crew member into a situation where they know that person isn’t coming back.

Does the situation Voyager was in and the creation of Tuvix represent the same level of danger “to the many” that say an imminent warp core breach does?

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even addresses the “needs of the many” argument by stating the truth: the other two are gone and the new being is there.

articulate case for their life, and even addresses the “needs of the many” argument by stating the truth: the other two are gone and the new being is there

That only addresses the needs of Tuvok and Neelix. What about the rest of the crew whose chances of survival and reaching home are materially hindered by the effective loss of a crew member. Presumably Tuvix isn’t going to work 8 hours in the galley then straight away 8 hours on tactical. What if there’s an emergency that needs both skillets at the same time? What if Tuvix is killed in six months time on an away mission?

It’s true that Tuvok and Neelix were gone, but the option now existed to have them both back. So the fact that they were gone is reductive and inaccurate. Again ultimately Janeway has around 150 lives to think of, not just three.

The doctor straight up says that the procedure is unethical and refuses to do it.

Because he’s a doctor. I doubt he’d be able to order someone into a jefferies tube to fix an ODN conduit in an active warp plasma shaft. Yet that’s literally part of the bridge officers test. youtu.be/rC6rGoyEe2s?si=ho_FOBjSaUdTRurX

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The point of a team is that no one person is a point of failure.

Exactly. Tuvix is a potential single point of failure. You’re doubling your risk. Eggs and baskets.

Factoring in a hypothetical future scenario is spurious.

Why? It goes hand in hand with your point about points of failure. It’s something that would have had to be considered. Voyager wasn’t snug and safe in the alpha quadrant where they could just go to a starbase and get more crew members if they lost any.

And not one person has even tried to reconcile the speech to the Vidiians.

It’s right there in the speech I will do whatever is necessary to protect my people

At the end of the day the murder of Tuvix pales into insignificance compared to her out and out genocide of the Borg. All to protect her people and get them home.

I don’t personally think the murder of Tuvix was justifiable, but it’s definitely not an open and shut case. Janeway had to consider 150 people and their chances of surviving and getting home in one piece she also had to consider Tuvok and Neelix.

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That first panel was extremely relatable as a Brit.

youtu.be/H6-IQAdFU3w?si=HEnszEKpYxeGwJWp

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I didn’t know it was a competition as to whose government shit the bed worse. I guess making it one has to do with the inferiority complex you get from knowing all your ancestors were criminals.

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since you can’t recognise an obvious joke.

That clearly goes both ways.

Maybe we’ve both got too used to dealing with yanks on the internet.

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Second best new trek after SNW. Very very much yes.

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3 - Michael Burnham is so annoying self centered and needy. If they’d moved to being a more ensemble cast sooner and not had it seem like they thought the universe revolved around her then it could have got a solid 6.

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With the size of the community here? Yes very much.

It might be worth it if here gets as big as Reddit.

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At least you’ll be able to find it on the high seas now, rather than it rotting on some hard drive in the back of a cupboard.

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Could just get a netflix subscription if you’re happy to wait a couple of months.

startrek.com/…/star-trek-prodigy-to-stream-on-net…

Or if you want it and don’t want them to be able to take it away again

www.amazon.co.uk/…/ref=asc_df_B0B9Z41HXJ?tag=bing…

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Takes a few episodes to get going but by the end of the season I’d rank it as the second best new era Trek after SNW.

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Junkball media videos are always worth watching.

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They’ve moved over to quads. Whatever the hell they are. Around the TNG era they were talking in kiloquads I think by voy their into the gigaquad range.

My head canon is that a quad is a term employed due to the way isolinear chips store data in a 3d matrix.

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This is my feeling about LD to a T. I still don’t get why some people seem to think it’s the best thing since DS9, but it’s not bad.

The series I was shocked by how much I loved, however, was Prodigy.

Is it worth closing the lid on a toilet before flushing?

This seems like something that should be true, but I think I remember seeing a Mythbusters episode where they decided it didn't make a difference. That show was more about entertainment than science, so I wondered if there was a more rigorous study done? I've definitely seen splashes of water(?) come out from flushes so that...

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Er, no. Because if you do that the brush just gets covered in shit.

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In a word, yes. In three words oh fuck yes.

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They’d need to reduce the time jump between books 6 and 7 to make another series work. I think where they ended it was a really good point. That said I would love to have seen like a fucking valkyrie on screen.

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Lexx

Here’s a bit of a left field one for a movie: Master and Commander the Far Side of the World

ign.com/…/review-of-master-and-commander-the-far-…

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Other than the time jump I thought my reference was cryptic enough that to get it you’d either need to have read the books, or already been spoilered. Sorry if it wasn’t.

But I’d still be hyped about continuing the story which was clearly hinted at in the ending too.

Yeah. Hopefully there’ll be some kind of follow up, maybe a film or something.

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It could just be because it's a new domain. My nextdns setup was blocking it because of that.

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