readbeanicecream ,
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which is like reddit + twitter. Somethings I post as threads (like reddit) some things I post as posts (like twitter). Then I hop between the two when reading. Posts fall under microblogs and federates with Mastodon. So it is like having thing I need in one account.

woshang OP ,

Well I just found an Decentralized social platform called WireMin.

They claim they are for 100% censorship resistance &100%Privacy due to its decentralized structure.

Somehow decentralized can acheive that right? I mean no censorship.

janWilejan ,
@janWilejan@kbin.social avatar

I haven't heard of WireMin until now. Looking at their FAQs, they have a lot of promises and not much to back them up. There's a lot of red flags here

  • Closed source. It appears to be totally proprietary, so you can't look at the source code to ensure that they aren't lying about their product
  • They will be introducing microtransactions into their chat app; likely using cryptocurrency.
  • It's full of web3 crypto nonsense. It seems to me the only real plan to fund development is to be bought out by a large investor in the future.
nicetriangle ,
@nicetriangle@kbin.social avatar

Hard pass on that. Also 100% censorship resistance sounds good at face value until you realize that can easily be construed to mean that nazis are free to run wild there.

woshang OP ,

Good point, I saw this on their FAQ page too, not sure if it could explain some.

palordrolap ,

Hadn't hear of this. Looked into it a bit.

The fact it requires a specific piece of software, even on desktop, puts it one step from (old) Twitter to me.

Even things like Discord - while very much not the same in other ways - has a web version that runs in a browser. Ditto the early 00's instant messaging apps.

Also, the decentralisation seems to all be under the control of the one company(?). They say "no single entity controlling it" but there's not much further detail. I might be mistaken, but it doesn't seem like the Fediverse's version of decentralisation, at least at first glance.

Moving further(?) into tinfoil hat territory: The founder's name is very similar to that of a late Reddit founder, which is worth a double-take. Funny coincidence? Fake name? Either way might be playing on the coincidence? etc. etc. Hard to tell. Dude's probably legit, right?

b) A few of the web links for it were in Chinese, but that's probably a red herring. Translation suggests people in China are using it to get around certain internet issues.

Maybe I'm just suspicious of new things.

woshang OP ,

I even ask their customer service about this "no single entity controlling it"

Hypnos ,

I recommend Mastodon!

stevecrox , (edited )
@stevecrox@kbin.social avatar

Your posting this on KBin which implements the twitter style fediverse API and federates with Mastodon.

Click the microblog button ... Behold twitter replacement

gentleman ,

@woshang I got kicked off Twit years ago. Once Elon took over and let loose the Putinistas and authoritarians, there was no reason to go back to that cesspool of hate and misinformation

lemonflavoured ,
@lemonflavoured@kbin.social avatar

I've been using Mastodon a bit more, and I do also have a Threads account.

loobkoob ,
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I'm curious: why are you using Mastodon when you're a kbin user already? Why not just use the microblogging aspect of kbin? It's even federated with Mastodon!

lemonflavoured ,
@lemonflavoured@kbin.social avatar

I was using Mastodon before Kbin.

loobkoob ,
@loobkoob@kbin.social avatar

That's a good reason!

retronautickz ,

I’ve had a Mastodon account since 2018, but I officially moved from twitter last year. I also have a firefish/calckey account and and akkoma one.

I prefer Firefish. Its features allow me to use it as a mix of twitter and tumblr. For something extrictly twitter-like, I’ll go for Akkoma as I find Mastodon to be lacking some important characteristics and its minimalistic design to be uninviting.

Ragnell ,
@Ragnell@kbin.social avatar

Moved my Mastodon account over to Firefish for the features.

Pons_Aelius ,

One does not have to switch from something that was never used.

Twitter has been a short form outrage machine since the beginning.

furrowsofar ,

The interesting thing about Twitter is how it shows how a significant part of our society works. It is kind of about amplifying fame and suggesting that we should all cares about meaningless 240 character posts or what these guys think.

That news media types love Twitter is kind of an indictment of how news works.

Pons_Aelius ,

Humans have neolithic hunter-gather brains and emotional reactions, medieval civil intuitions while using tech that borders on magic.

Twitter used to call itself the town square, and it is/was just like the square of old. Dominated by those that yelled the loudest and longest.

Jarmer ,
@Jarmer@kbin.social avatar

That's not really true. When it first came out, before the ads, before the algorithm, when they embraced 3rd party apps with an open api, it was really great. It was full of techy personalities and interesting folks. Hashtags were fun to follow, live events were amazing in real time, so much more. That was before it got inundated with politics and celebrities though. I think that honeymoon phase only lasted a tiny while, then it all went downhill into the outrage machine pretty quickly. But for a quick minute there, it was glorious.

Itty53 ,
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This is a wildly over generalized take.

Twitter was also an important tool for journalists and researchers worldwide. Military targets have come from Twitter posts. It is a reflection of a huge chunk of society. You may as well call all of internet technology "just a porn box" for how wildly over generalized that statement is. The reality is your generalization comes from arrogance. "I never engaged in such frivolous behavior". You're here now. Yes you have and yes you do.

Even your comment is the first cousin of outrage, it's pure disdain. Nothing more or less, and exactly as valuable as outrage.

nicetriangle ,
@nicetriangle@kbin.social avatar

Mastodon obviously but also giving bluesky a shot

ARealDinosaur , (edited )

I want to move to bluesky so bad but I just can't get a damn invite. I applied via email months ago. This is their moment & I kinda feel like the invite system is holding them back. (But I do understand why it was implemented.)

Edit: omg you guys are so sweet. I only just started using this place but I'm sold. You're awesome!

heyfluxay ,

Remind me, get invites every 2 weeks and I can get you one.

ARealDinosaur ,

Thank you so much!! I actually just got one but you are so sweet for offering!

nicetriangle ,
@nicetriangle@kbin.social avatar

I have 2 extra, will DM you

ARealDinosaur ,

I think I replied to your DM but I'm still learning so just in case: YOU ARE AMAZING TYSM!!!!

nicetriangle ,
@nicetriangle@kbin.social avatar

DM recieved and no problem! Hope you dig it over there. I haven’t dived in too deep but it seems promising

effingjoe ,

It's very... dramatic over there, and I know it's supposed to be a beta (trust me, I know) but there seems to be a lot of missing functionality. I pop in every few days and it's like there a new moral outrage about bluesky each time.

nicetriangle ,
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I mostly follow people in the art/illustration community so I'm not really seeing what you're complaining about, but to be fair your complaint could be levied against basically every big online community out there right now including the fediverse.

effingjoe ,

I am mostly judging by the "hot" feed, since I only follow a few people that I knew via Twitter, and to a significant degree you're right-- there was the same kind of drama on kbin and lemmy when I joined. (I checked out threads for ~30 seconds so I can't say about there) I don't remember anything like that on Mastodon, but I'm sure it's there. It seemed more rapid-fire on bluesky. Specifically there seemed to be a lot of hate against the devs on Bluesky for various reasons.

In any event, it's a pretty big echo chamber right now but that's to be expected while it's in invite-only. I'm sure it will settle out when it opens up to the general public.

Kondoriano ,

I've also been wanting to try Bluesky would anyone have any invites available?

ARealDinosaur ,

I just got in but when I get invites I'll come back if nobody else has yet!

_haha_oh_wow_ ,
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I never used Twitter so I’m just going to keep not using it.

andyMFK ,

I’ve never understood exactly what people get out of Twitter, and don’t understand why you’d need an alternative? Why not just use Lemmy as your alternative?

verysoft ,

News and updates from specific companies/projects/people.

How people always fail to see the usefulness of the platform amazes me. There is nothing else like it for that purpose, moving elsewhere is difficult if all the accounts you are interested in are not also moving there.

b1ab ,
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Exactly.

Not everyone is on twitter for the political bullshit. Using banned words it’s easy to filter any political garbage. Twitter is quite useful. But I’m not there to convince or push my ideology on a bunch of polarized people. What a waste of energy.

Kaldo ,
@Kaldo@kbin.social avatar

Exactly, if you block enough and follow the right people the twitter feed is a pretty good place to get news and content. Hard to get that on mastodon since, well... no algorithm to actually show these things to you, no people to actually follow and no time to read everything chronologically.

verysoft ,

Its definitely a lot worse now, but at its peak twitter algorithm worked pretty well, not that I ever used it, always did the standard chronological, but I wasn't following 100s of accounts anyway.

Had to setup RSS again now, but its not the same as it used to be, harder to find decent blogs with the news/updates I want that support RSS.

Gordon_Freeman ,
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News and updates from specific companies/projects/people

So let's say I'm interested in tech. I got my news and updates from tech oriented websites/blogs, with the added benefits of tutorials and other articles also posted there, why would I want to use twitter?

verysoft ,

Then that's great for you. Setup RSS and you are away.

But not everyone has their own website/blog and they use twitter instead.

heyfluxay ,

I tried out Mastodon last November and it was the perfect alternative for me. Connecting with more interesting people each week and I am loving the experience still to this day.

I have several friends that still use Twitter but discord has been the solution to keep in touch. Haven’t been able to delete my accounts yet.

fearout ,
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Just wanted to comment that your cover image is great and on point :)

DarkThoughts ,

Nothing, because I never had a use for Twitter in the first place.
But the obvious fediverse alternative would be Mastodon. Decentralized, open source and you can use it even to communicate with kbin.

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