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swope , in Kbin doesn't respect my subscription feed anymore or I don't understand it.
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Glad you figured it out. I was seeing the same thing, but I realized I had followed the people posting the threads.

a-man-from-earth , in What is the difference between a post and thread?
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A post is like a tweet, and ends up in the Microblog. Other "posts" that use the hashtag will also end up there.

A thread is like a Reddit post, and is basically part of the main content of a "magazine" / sub / community.

anonymouse OP ,

Ahh ok. that clears up a lot. thank you!

shepherd ,
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Yeah, unfortunately the Threads app (by Meta) sure adds to the confusion here lmao.

On kbin.social, a thread is indeed like a reddit post, where you post content like links or pictures, and we all comment and discuss lol.

On Threads, that's a twitter competitor lmao, and Threads content would be comparable to what kbin calls "posts" lol. I'm so sorry lol.

anonymouse OP ,

oh this post has nothing to do with the Threads app by Meta. please refer to a-man-from-earth's comment.

curt ,

So how does one create a thread? I've made a few posts in the microblog and selected a magazine, but I never saw them appear in the Magazine.

anonymouse OP ,

There is a plus up in the top right group of icons. When you click it, it gives you options to choose from and asks if you want to make a thread, post, link,ect. Once you are in that page there is an option for what magazine you want it to go in. [FYI I have been using kbin for three days so I could be wrong.]

a-man-from-earth ,
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Go to the magazine that you want to create a thread in, hit the + in the top bar, and select "Add new link" or "Add new thread". There's also a select box for the magazine once you hit one of those.

For a microblog post, make sure to hit "Add new post" and again, there is a dropdown select box for the magazine. Also, you can add a hashtag to make the microblog post show up in various magazines.

ciferecaNinjo ,

This is my understanding as well, @a@kbin.social¹. And with this understanding, I concur with @anonymouse:

they made things overly complicated

Indeed. It’s not a meaningful separation particularly when the microblogs have no significant enforcement of being “micro”. The /feeling/ I get is that kbin threads (which are very poorly named as @s6original discovered) are for high effort often lengthy content with a graphic, formatting, and more thought-out content. But kbin supports formatting in both which makes them redundant.

I suspect if someone makes a lot of short off-the-cuff “threads” a moderator might want to have a word with them.

is a scatter-brained design.

(edit) footnote:

  1. woah, there’s a . I wrote “@ a-man-from-earth @ kbin.social” (no spaces) and kbin could not handle the hyphen, apparently.
s6original , in What is the difference between a post and thread?
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A post is what you created to ask your question. Unless someone else commented while I was typing, this is the first comment in your post’s thread. So the thread is the comment list for your post.

a-man-from-earth ,
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With respect to kbin terminology, this is the wrong answer.

s6original ,
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My apologies.

0x1C3B00DA , in kbin feature needed: a way for users to mirror a thread from another node without integrating comments
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You can create a new thread linking to the old one (or the url the old threads is linking to).

ciferecaNinjo OP ,

Yeah, that’s a decent hack. Though it requires creating the same magazine locally (fair enough), but if there already is a local magazine that’s federated to that other instance, then it’s complicated.

I guess I’m not clear on how federated magazines work. Suppose we have:

  • domainX.social/m/immigration
  • domainY.social/m/immigration
  • domainZ.social/m/immigration

and someone locally creates a local.social/m/[email protected]. Does that mean we can still create a an unfederated local.social/m/immigration? Or can multiple federated magazines be combined in the same local mag?

And what if domainY has a right wing extremist anti-immigration slant which we don’t want. But we want domainZ’s version but domainZ has federated with domainY?

0x1C3B00DA ,
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In your example, it wouldn't be local.social/m/[email protected]. If a user on local.social created a immigration magazine it would be local.social/m/immigration The @ part is only for remote magazines. So that same magazine viewed from domainX would be domainX.social/m/[email protected]. local.social/m/[email protected] is an immigration magazine hosted on domainX.social and accessed from local.social

Or can multiple federated magazines be combined in the same local mag?

Not currently. There are multiple proposals for grouping magazines that are being discussed.

And what if domainY has a right wing extremist anti-immigration slant which we don’t want. But we want domainZ’s version but domainZ has federated with domainY?

You can subscribe to whichever one you want. domainZ.social/m/immigration is not affected by whatever the users on domainY post to domainY.social/m/immigration. They are two separate communities.

LollerCorleone , in The Narwhal Kbins at Dawn: A Reddit UserStyle for Kbin
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Folks over at kbinStyles will really like this.

chris , in New feature? 😍 I just noticed that now I can search for magazines/communities better!
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That's interesting. Despite being on the dev branch, Fedia doesn't have this yet! @jerry maybe time for another update? 😉

jerry , in New feature? 😍 I just noticed that now I can search for magazines/communities better!
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yeah, it was added about two days ago and I just pulled down the latest code again. Should work now

all-knight-party , in New feature? 😍 I just noticed that now I can search for magazines/communities better!
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oh shit, son, you can now sort magazines by post/comment count, here we go. thanks for updating, jerry

Gamers_Mate , in How does one interact with Mastodon with kbin?

I am not sure how to see the main feed of mastodon from kbin but you can use
https://kbin.social/u/@USERNAME@INSTANCENAME to view posts from a specific user.
Kbin seems to treat individual accounts on mastodon as different magazines.
Also from Mastodon it will not appear in the main feed but you can use a fediverse link to view it and comment on it.
Next to comments and posts where it says more it will give you a fediverse link. If someone puts that in the search bar in mastodon they can connect to it.

CarrieForle OP ,
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Thanks for the info. Especially that you can view accounts from other federverse platforms on kbin. I'm going to do some experiment on my own.

ernest ,
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Hey, in the microblog section, most of the posts come from Mastodon and other platforms. Threads are mainly from Lemmy and Friendica.

If you want to include post from Mastodon in concrete magazine, simply mention it in the post content, for example, @[email protected]

toasteranimation , in How does one interact with Mastodon with kbin?
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I’m commenting from Voyager app (fka wefwef) logged in to lemmy.world and this looks like any other lemmy post

Teppic , (edited ) in How does one interact with Mastodon with kbin?
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If you click a hashtag e.g. then you'll find much of what is found is from Mastodon.

I'm sure it must be possible to search for a hashtag in a similar way but I've not quite worked that one out!

CarrieForle OP , (edited ) in How does one interact with Mastodon with kbin?
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Some updates. Apparently, making a thread in kbin will make a post on Mastodon, but not immediately. Here is the main page of my account on Mastodon (mastodon.social): https://mastodon.social/@[email protected]

Under Posts tab, you will see this particular thread(https://mastodon.social/@[email protected]/110717469552820707) and its replies. In contrast to my initial thought, posts on kbin seems to be ignored by Mastodon since I did not see my posts on my main page there.

On the other hand, Posts from Mastodon is transferred to posts (microblog) in seemingly arbitrary magazine on kbin, and again, not immediately.

Here's an example of a post from Mastodon: https://mastodon.social/@jensorensen/110719419446130679
Here's what it became on kbin: https://kbin.social/m/internet/p/859696/Latest-comic-Pick-your-social-network-socialmedia-internet-tech-authoritarianism

If you dig a bit in that account, you'll see her posts are posted in different magazines, which is weird since there is no magazine equivalent in Mastodon. I'm guessing it's on kbin's side that does this transformation, probably with the help of hashtag?

Also, posts that's too old will not be transferred. I did not find this post on kbin: https://mastodon.social/@jensorensen/110204027397694156 . Based on the time when it's posted, it's somewhere between April 16 and April 23.

Pamasich ,
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Can you open any of those mastodon links in mastodon yourself? They all open in kbin for me (as do any other mastodon, at least mastodon.social, links), wonder if that's just me or other people as well.

CarrieForle OP ,
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Link to my profile and thread redirect to the one on kbin. Probably because they both originated from here. But the post from Mastodon does direct to the mastodon.social.

The only way to see this thread and my profile on Mastodon is go to an Mastodon instance, search my name CarrieForle, and see it there.

Pamasich ,
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Posts from Mastodon is transferred to posts (microblog) in seemingly arbitrary magazine on kbin

Pretty sure iirc the microblog sections just looks for tags. The magazine owner specifies a bunch of tags it should search for and the magazine fetches any posts with the specified tags and displays them in the microblog section. So that's why it looks like it's put in arbitrary magazines, because any magazine looking for the same tag can get the same post.

CarrieForle OP ,
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That is my guess, too. But I don't own a magazine so I didn't know if it's true.

The confirmation is helpful.

But if that's really the case, what will happen when there are several magazines fetch the same tags? Predictably, they just shown on all said magazines, but what about OP's profile? As far as I'm concernd, you cannot create a post in several magazines simultaneously.

garrettw87 , in Will you recommend making an Mastodon account if I already have an kbin account?
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Do you need to? No. But I do have accounts on both and will keep it that way, because they’re just completely different experiences and Kbin isn’t to a point yet IMO to fully replace Mastodon on the client level.

cedled ,
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+1 with explanation of @garrettw87

Chozo , in Found a bench that looks like kbin's logo

That looks like a really uncomfortable bench.

kaupas24 OP ,

Modern design

Echolot ,

Sadly that may actually be intentionally

density ,
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Usually when you see an uncomfortable bench it is made like that so people dont sleep on it. What could be worse than someone sleeping on a bench. Its called hostil design or something.

ryan ,

Hostile architecture, yup. Nothing better than the one-two punch of poorly accommodating people's sitting needs while simultaneously ensuring the unhoused have to suffer even more!

Not to mention what all these "creative designs" do in terms of making some of these benches basically unusable to people with certain physical or sensory disabilities.

herpderpedia , in Will you recommend making an Mastodon account if I already have an kbin account?
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I had a completely separate reddit and Twitter username for a reason. In fact, the username I used on reddit was not used by me anywhere else.

I plan to keep it that way in the fediverse. Reddit-like instances will use one username and other platforms will use something else.

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