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DLSantini , in Read to leap into Linux

I doubt you’re going to get many responses here that aren’t basically ” you don’t need Windows at all, proton is magic that will solve all of your problems"

I’m going to give the opposite advice. I can tell you from experience, if you dual boot Windows and Linux, you’re going to find that over time, while in Windows to use the stuff that only works there, you’ll ask yourself “do I really need to shut down Windows and boot into Linux just for that one thing I need to use real quick?”, and you’ll just do it in Windows. You’ll do that more and more, until you realize you have that Linux install sitting on your drive for no reason, because you don’t use it.

My advice is to either test out a gaming-centric Linux distro, and see if EVERYTHING you want to use works fully(and I do mean try it for yourself, doubt just assume it works because other people say it does, Google a setup guide for the thing you want, and actually try it), or if you have anything you want to use that MUST run on Windows, just stick to Windows for the time being. You can always keep an eye on the status of the thing you want to run, and when it works properly on Linux, have another look at switching fully.

One exception would be if you really only spend a very small amount of time gaming, and so would only need to be in Windows occasionally. If you really will spend the vast majority of your time in Linux, then it makes sense to dual boot. But if you plan to spend any real amount of time doing stuff in Windows, you’re going to find it really obnoxious to have to go back and forth.

speck OP ,

I appreciate this input, thank you. You make a valid point. I don't game much, so there wouldn't be too much back and forth. This is also just about learning what it's like to use Linux. I have a backup apple device, which is the OS I'm used to, and it would remain my daily driver for all essential tasks. For now, at least. So I have the luxury of trying stuff out on the pc laptop but not being bound by it.

cerement , in Read to leap into Linux
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  • Linux Mint is pretty much the stock recommendation for newcomers to Linux – straight forward, no big surprises
  • and Steam for your games – with Proton, there’s very little that won’t run under Linux in one way or another nowadays
speck OP ,

That's what I've gathered: to go with Mint. I saw somewhere that I might, however, need to get something tweaked to the gpu card that I have? For reference, I just bought a Lenovo Legion Slim 5 (Ryzen 7 7840HS; NVIDIA RTX 4060). Apparently Linux struggles with NVIDIA cards?

I've also heard of Proton. Do games take a performance hit played through that? I just figured I'd boot Windows for games, to remove a challenge from this transition. But if it's not much of a challenge, and performance doesn't take a hit, I'm certainly willing to give it a shot.

onceuponaban ,
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The NVIDIA thing has been answered elsewhere in the thread, so I'll answer the other one: ... It depends, but usually there's a minor performance hit. Other times it works just as well, and there are some edge cases where it actually works better.

There's also the issue of compatibility: in general, if anti-cheat software is involved, expect to have problems. This website is a database for Steam games with reports from users about what works, what doesn't work, and what can be done to fix or at least mitigate what doesn't work. You can sync your Steam library to it to see how well the games you have are supported at a glance.

ekky ,

NVIDIA works fine for regular use (including gaming and training ML).

Mint makes changing to the propriety drivers easy, as you just search for and open the drivers screen, and then select the latest propriety driver. Mint will take care of the rest.

Now, I haven’t used AMD in a long time, so I’m not sure what it has that NVIDIA doesn’t since I haven’t experienced any NVIDIA problems, other than open source drivers.

qyron , in Read to leap into Linux

What’s your main concern?

And allow me to add: the Penguin deals better and better with gaming, nowadays. Consider that as well.

Are you looking for a distro?

speck OP ,

Yes, initially thoughts on a distro. As well as addressing a concern I encountered about additional steps that are perhaps necessary with an NVIDIA card (that it doesn't mix as easily with Linux, I think). And, of course, whatever else I should know straight out the gate — although I assume a lot would be covered in the process of installing a distro.

I've definitely noted the development of gaming with Linux. Dual boot was just to have one less element in the mix, as I adjust to Linux (I've MacOs for a while now). TBH, there's a bit of an irrational element, too: I got a PC so I can play a bunch of games that aren't on Macs. So if I'm going to find a workaround in Linux, well, why didn't/don't I do that with a Mac, instead?

DrYes ,
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You'll just need to check how to install the proprietary NVIDIA drivers on your distro. For most that won't be a problem. Just a quick google search, haven't tried this myself:
https://itsfoss.com/nvidia-linux-mint/

JeffKerman1999 , in Read to leap into Linux

Go to an easy distro like pop_os or something similar. Avoid Ubuntu because of their corporate fuckery.

speck OP ,

I was going to default to Mint, just because it's the one I've most encountered being referenced, especially for beginners. I'll do some searching on Pop_Os vs Mint. Thank you!

MiddledAgedGuy , in Read to leap into Linux

/c/[email protected] seems to be more active. Might be a better choice.

0x4E4F , in Wine is for Windows and Darling is for MacOS

Hm, this is good info 👍. Can’t wait to run Logic on Linux ☺️.

ourob , in Linux Kernel 6.5 Reaches End of Life, It's Time to Upgrade to Linux Kernel 6.6 LTS - 9to5Linux

For anyone unfamiliar with how kernel support works, unless you manually installed your kernel you don’t need to worry about this.

Distros that shipped 6.5 will continue to support 6.5 during their normal release/support cycle and back port any important patches as needed (or they will update their packages to 6.6).

Solaris1789 , in Linux Kernel 6.5 Reaches End of Life, It's Time to Upgrade to Linux Kernel 6.6 LTS - 9to5Linux
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I feel like 6.0 was released yesterday, am i getting old?

Chais , in Automatic command execution on file changes with entr
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What’s wrong with a simple path unit?

danrot OP ,

I am not exactly sure what you mean by that... But the main advantage is that the command does not have to be executed manually everytime you change something. Instead entr recognizes when something changes and re-executes the command for you.

Chais ,
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That’s what a systemd.path unit accomplishes, too. It watches a path, and if that file/directory changes, it starts its accompanying systemd.service.

danrot OP ,

Ah, you are talking about systemd, wasn't aware of that... I imagine that to be much more complicated for many use cases. E.g. running a unit test (as I describe in the article) isn't something I would use systemd for. Setting up a path and a service seems more complicated than using entr, and it is probably also harder to get to the output as well.

486 , in GNOME Developers Suffer Constant Harassment
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Of course harassment is never okay, but I'd say when it comes to GNOME, this is not surprising. GNOME developers have been so hostile towards both users and other developers for a long time. I'm not saying every single person associated with the project does this, but it is pretty common (e.g. here and here ). Of course the GNOME devs don't have to accomodate everyone, but it is a common theme with the project to remove features despite user backlash and also to close bugs as WONTFIX often without good explanations as to why, even when there are pull requests for fixing the problem.

I am simply avoiding the project, since there are enough good alternatives.

NecoArcKbinAccount , in GNOME Developers Suffer Constant Harassment
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to be fair though, GNOME devs are chronic assholes too. its a feedback loop sadly and the end user suffers.

backhdlp , in GNOME Developers Suffer Constant Harassment

Unrelated to the post, but does this community really not have mods?

0xtero ,

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einfach_orangensaft , in GNOME Developers Suffer Constant Harassment

nobody likes gnome.

Cwilliams , in Execute commands for multiple files using fish

This isn’t just a fish thing, it works with bash, zsh, etc too

danrot OP ,

That's true, but the syntax is different then. In this blog post I cover fish, and I didn't intent to say that this cannot be done in other shells (and I think I never said so).

Cwilliams ,

Oh, thanks for the clarification!

ShaunaTheDead ,
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Pretty unrelated, but I just wanted to say that I love how bash scripting uses if to open an if statement and fi to close it... makes me giggle every time lol

Cwilliams ,

Comment Same! It’s really funny Tnemmoc

danrot OP ,

Doesn't it also use case and esacand a few others? Such a weird language^^

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