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polygon , in Is Nobara tied in with all the Redhat Drama?
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I read the explanation about this somewhere on the Nobara website, but I can't seem to find it. Someone else was asking about this so I'll just paste what I said there. This is a paraphrase of what I read on the Nobara site. If anyone can find the actual explanation it would be better, but this is how I understood what he said:

The way it was explained to me was Fedora = RHEL Alpha, CentOS Stream = RHEL Beta, RHEL is Stable, then there are downstreams who build against RHEL. Only those who are downstream of REHL are effected by the changes. Both Fedora and Cent are necessary development platforms to support everything that eventually makes it down to RHEL in stable condition. They both depend on RHEL for funding, but RHEL depends on them for testing.

PabloDiscobar OP , in SUSE Preserves Choice in Enterprise Linux by Forking RHEL with a $10+ Million Investment
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Haem...

Any statements in this press release about future expectations, plans and prospects for the company, including statements containing the words “aims,” “targets,” “will,” “believes,” “anticipates,” “plans,” “expects,” and similar expressions, may constitute forward-looking statements and should be read with caution. Actual results may differ materially from those indicated by such forward-looking statements as a result of various important factors, including competitive landscape, development of customer deals, reliance upon customer relationships, management of growth and acquisitions, the possibility of undetected software issues, the risks of impacts of the Covid-19 pandemic and economic downturns, pricing pressures and the viability of the Internet. In addition, any forward-looking statements included herein represent views as of the date of this press release and these views could change. The Company does not have any obligation to update its forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements are subject to change and should not be relied upon as representing the Company’s views as of any date other than the date of this press release.

BaltasarOnRails ,

Is this the first time you're reading something like this?

PabloDiscobar OP ,
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So clearly on the same page? Yes.

deong ,

This is just standard boilerplate language, and whether a particular product or company includes it or not is entirely a function of that company's legal department and has no bearing at all on the future behavior of the company.

That is to say, everything in here is true of everything, whether they tell you that or not, and literally zero information is gained from seeing it explicitly stated. If they'd completely left it out, it would still be true.

PabloDiscobar OP ,
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Is it supposed to reassure me or somethin'?

andyburke ,
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It has to do with companies that are publicly traded, at least in the US. You need to be careful about statements about the future that could impact the stock price.

The idea is that you must tell people that you can't guarantee the results.

bedrooms , in Keep Linux Open and Free—We Can’t Afford Not To

Oracle has been part of the Linux community for 25 years. Our goal has remained the same over all those years: help make Linux the best server operating system for everyone, freely available to all, with high-quality, low-cost support provided to those who need it.

Sure, Jan.

shadowbert , (edited ) in The LINUX DISTRO model is BROKEN
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I get the opinion - but it isn't always the distro owners... developers can upload their own versions to AUR if they want to. But it is a fair comment that even a keen developer is going to miss at least a few possible package formats.

BaltasarOnRails , in Keep Linux Open and Free—We Can’t Afford Not To

Being on the receiving end makes you pretend to be humble.

Edit: okay, nothing humble about that.

PabloDiscobar , in Keep Linux Open and Free—We Can’t Afford Not To
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Oracle is this priest who will try to convert you to christianity when you are in a hospital on your deathbed.

Oracle has been part of the Linux community for 25 years. Our goal has remained the same over all those years: help make Linux the best server operating system for everyone, freely available to all, with high-quality, low-cost support provided to those who need it.

Fuck you

We want to emphasize to Linux developers, Linux customers, and Linux distributors that Oracle is committed to Linux freedom. Oracle makes the following promise: as long as Oracle distributes Linux, Oracle will make the binaries and source code for that distribution publicly and freely available. Furthermore, Oracle welcomes downstream distributions of every kind, community and commercial. We are happy to work with distributors to ease that process, work together on the content of Oracle Linux, and ensure Oracle software products are certified on your distribution.

Oracle is one of the biggest personal data broker out there. Fuck you

By the way, if you are a Linux developer who disagrees with IBM’s actions and you believe in Linux freedom the way we do, we are hiring.

The russian army is hiring too.

Finally, to IBM, here’s a big idea for you. You say that you don’t want to pay all those RHEL developers? Here’s how you can save money: just pull from us. Become a downstream distributor of Oracle Linux. We will happily take on the burden.

Devour each others please. Thank you and fuck you.

ryannathans OP ,

do you have a source on Oracle being one of the biggest personal data brokers?

PabloDiscobar , (edited )
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Xandr

https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/6N8gA/plain.png

edit: to whomever is interested in privacy, the downvote is from a troll, mass downvoter called @DarkThoughts. The link is good and the source as well.

nosycat , in Keep Linux Open and Free—We Can’t Afford Not To
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When Oracle of all companies calls you out... you might be the baddie.

LinusWorks4Mo , in Keep Linux Open and Free—We Can’t Afford Not To
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good guy Oracle

mvirts ,

visible confusion

0xtero , in Keep Linux Open and Free—We Can’t Afford Not To

But they couldn't keep Solaris open and free. What a bunch of hypocrites.

merlin , in Keep Linux Open and Free—We Can’t Afford Not To

"By the way, if you are a Linux developer who disagrees with IBM’s actions and you believe in Linux freedom the way we do, we are hiring." brought a smile to my face :D

krnl386 , in Keep Linux Open and Free—We Can’t Afford Not To
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Oracle poking fun at RedHat and IBM?!? First Microsoft and now Oracle. What is going on???

jeebus ,
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International Business Machines is on the ropes!

elscallr , in Is Nobara tied in with all the Redhat Drama?
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My recommendation is just don't buy into one distro too much. Play around with a few, shit play around with 10. Figure out your desktop environment, your terminal, install your files onto a separate partition you can use from anything.

The big changes between distributions don't really affect every day consumers. They can all run Gnome, KDE, XFCE, bash, fish... They can all run all the software. A few, like your Debian or Fedora based might have a couple better drivers, but even then they'll all be pretty comparable. They all have package managers that are usually some flavor of apt, yum, or Flatpak. If you want to use terminal utilities they all come with coreutils. Every one is good to learn to code.

Play with what you want, abandon it, and play with something else.

Advice from someone who's been daily driving a Linux box since 1998 and who uses it every day professionally.

Gull ,

Distro-hopping is a valid hobby, but it's not for everyone. If you aren't specifically interested in distros and fiddling with packages, hopping around on your "daily driver" can be disruptive. If you just want something that works, there's nothing wrong with figuring out which distros do what you need and using one of those for work and play. If something catastrophic happens to a distro to make it literally unusable, you can worry about that when it happens. There is usually something else which is almost the same. Few people will get much value from hopping between distros which are basically the same, just because the distros are put out by different companies or install different packages by default.

elscallr ,
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Oh that's totally fair. I guess my point is if you're just looking for something that'll work then that's just about any of them. I'd pick the one with the most results on StackOverflow because it's most likely to have any issues resolved. And even then, to be honest, that's just a habit from 25 years ago when issues were a thing, these days pretty much everything just works.

If you're asking about distro recommendations I guess I expect a distro hopper.

tjhart85 , in Keep Linux Open and Free—We Can’t Afford Not To
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That horrible feeling when the person you loathe says something completely correct!

Questy , in Is Nobara tied in with all the Redhat Drama?
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I’m not knowledgeable enough to have a clue about the original question since I’m pretty new to Linux overall. Just wanted to say that I selected Nobara for my gaming PC and it’s been a pretty smooth ride. My windows drive is second in the boot order and is probably starting to feel a bit neglected.

shadowbert , in Keep Linux Open and Free—We Can’t Afford Not To
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Thankfully, even with IBM playing tricks like that, there's enough linux distros around these days that killing them all feels unlikely.

Though, that said, it's certainly not a trend I want to see continue either. It does feel conflicting to be cheering on oracle though...

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