yogthos ,
@yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

Trump is obviously running on the border as his linchpin issue, why is anybody expecting republicans to make some kind of a deal given that would undermine their candidate?

watson387 ,
@watson387@sopuli.xyz avatar

It must be nice to just refuse to do your job with no consequence.

Curious_Canid ,
@Curious_Canid@lemmy.ca avatar

Only their constituents can really impose consequences. That desperately needs to happen.

sanguinepar ,
@sanguinepar@lemmy.world avatar

I can never fathom how this sort of thing works. Why on earth is funding aid for a European ally in a state of war tied into the same bill as one about immigration policy?

They have nothing to do with each other, as far as I can see. I’m not from the States, but if anyone can ELI5 why this is a good way to run things, I’d really like to know.

From the outside, it just seems like a way to pile deals/compromises/favours/blackmail all into one big sticky mess. And a good way to get nothing done!

Candelestine ,

Mike Johnson, the leader of our lower legislative house, is blocking all votes on Ukraine aid. He won’t allow it to come to a vote. So, as a way to pressure him, it has been linked to something he ostensibly supports so that he has a harder time unilaterally blocking it.

He can still probably block it, but its harder to justify to his voters.

Ukraine aid on its own is a flat no, though, for as long as he occupies his position, which he got fairly recently.

sanguinepar ,
@sanguinepar@lemmy.world avatar

Ah ok, so that sounds like it’s the reverse of what I thought - I thought the GOP were saying “No help for Ukraine unless we get what we want,” but it sounds more like the Dems are trying to use border stuff as a carrot to get Ukraine aid through.

It still seems so weird to me though, that it’s even possible to tie two such unrelated things into a single package. Like, I could see it happening unofficially, behind the scenes deals and all that. But having it officially linked? So bizarre.

Mind you, I’m from the UK, so I’m in no position to comment on bizarre political/governmental arrangements… :-)

DarkNightoftheSoul ,
@DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz avatar

It is weird, we are taught about “pork” bills in our government civics class. I remember distinctly thinking it was stupid and backwards and probably leads to a lot of bullshit slipping through the cracks. My teacher touted it as “an american original.” This was around the time I started refusing to participate in the daily indoctrination pledge every american student is mandated to be subjected to.

StalinIsMaiWaifu ,
@StalinIsMaiWaifu@lemmygrad.ml avatar

The military aid would not pass on it’s own, in order to get the Republican vote they added border policy to it

This is pretty common in the usa, it’s nickname is “pork barrel” or “Texas pork”

I would say it is not a good way to do things (I like very little about our government) but with the way it is set up this is pretty much the only way to pass bills

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