The GOP has a master plan to criminalize LGBTQ people ( www.damemagazine.com )

Some quotes:

“The Mandate for Leadership” is a 920-page document that details how the next Republican administration will implement radical and sweeping changes to the entirety of government. This blueprint assumes that the next president will be able to rule by fiat under the unitary executive theory (which posits that the president has the power to control the entire federal executive branch). It is also based on the premise that the next president will implement Schedule F, which allows the president to fire any federal employee who has policy-making authority, and replace them with a presidential appointee who is not voted on in the Senate.

So they’re gonna take over the executive branch.

And businesses will support and fund this effort because:

The business wish list calls for eliminating federal agencies, stripping those that remain of regulatory power, and deregulating industries. The president would directly manage and influence Department of Justice and FBI cases, which would allow him to pursue criminal cases against political enemies. Environmental law would be gutted, and states would be prevented from enforcing their own environmental laws.

And what about the social wish list?

The social conservative wish list calls for ending abortion, diversity and inclusion efforts, protections for LGBTQ people, and most importantly, banning any and all LGBTQ content. In fact, “The Mandate for Leadership” makes eradicating LGBTQ people from public life its top priority. Its No. 1 promise is to “restore the family as the centerpiece of American life and protect our children.” They are explicit in how they plan to do so, as you’ll see in the paragraph below. They plan to proceed by declaring any and all LGBTQ content to be pornographic in nature.

“Pornography, manifested today in the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology and sexualization of children, for instance, is not a political Gordian knot inextricably binding up disparate claims about free speech, property rights, sexual liberation, and child welfare. It has no claim to First Amendment protection. Its purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploiters of women. Their product is as addictive as any illicit drug and as psychologically destructive as any crime. Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that facilitate its spread should be shuttered.”

When they talk about pornography, this includes any content discussing or portraying LGBTQ figures from the children’s books I Am Jazz and And Tango Makes Three to the Trevor Project’s suicide hotline. We know this by looking at how “don’t say gay” laws have been implemented in Florida: This is literally their model. It’s been tried in Virginia. It’s also arguable that LGBTQ parents would be subject to arrest, imprisonment, and being put on sex-offender registries for “exposing children to pornography” simply by being LGBTQ and having children.

It would also likely criminalize any therapist, doctor, or counselor who provided affirming therapy to trans youth. Indeed, the document makes it explicitly clear they want nationwide bans on abortion and access to affirming care for trans youth, while calling for conversion therapies to be the only available treatments. It could be argued as well that people who are visibly trans in public are pornographic or obscene, because they might be seen by a minor. This understanding of intent is in line with the call to “eradicate transgenderism from public life.”

There’s also the matter of the internet: Any Internet Service Provider (ISP) that transmits or receives data about transgender people could potentially be liable if conservatives have their way. When you read the final sentence of the excerpted paragraph, the clear intent is that the same would apply to any social media company that allows any (positive) discussion or depiction of transgender individuals, as it would be considered pornographic and contributing to harming a minor.

And how will they do this shit?

The organizations that drafted “The Mandate for Leadership” understand that blue states, which have sanctuary laws for transgender people, are unlikely to comply. It’s difficult to imagine California arresting and prosecuting teachers, librarians, doctors, therapists, bookstores (virtual or physical), LGBTQ parents, and especially LGBTQ people merely for existing in public. This is why they included the following paragraph:

“Where warranted and proper under federal law, initiate legal action against local officials—including District Attorneys—who deny American citizens the “equal protection of the laws” by refusing to prosecute criminal offenses in their jurisdictions. This holds true particularly for jurisdictions that refuse to enforce the law against criminals based on the Left’s favored defining characteristics of the would-be offender (race, so-called gender identity, sexual orientation, etc.) or other political considerations (e.g., immigration status).”

This is calling for the executive branch to use the Department of Justice to threaten prosecution of any local or state officials if they do not charge LGBTQ people and their allies with crimes under the pretense that they are breaking federal and state laws against exposing minors to pornography. If people at the Department of Justice refuse to go along with this, then they can simply be replaced under Schedule F. While the excerpted paragraph above includes references to immigration, the fact that it explicitly includes gender identity, and fits in with the previous calls to designate anything trans-related as pornographic, clearly telegraphs their intent.

The result of these actions will be perhaps the biggest power play against states rights in American history, and the threat is clear. If blue states refuse to turn on their own transgender citizens, then the federal government will do everything in its power to decapitate the leadership of those states using the Department of Justice. Conservatives are making the bet that individual district attorneys will not risk prosecution, and prison, on behalf of a tiny, despised minority. They’re betting that state governors will not be willing to risk both prosecution and a constitutional crisis over transgender people.

Well, fuck!

In addition to voting, what should we do about this?

CannotSleep420 ,

Shit like this is why we need left wing death squads to kill rightoids in pogroms.

TerryTPlatypus ,

At thsi point the only reasonable thing we can do is have a massive grossroots effort at local and state levels.

mycorrhiza OP ,

We need dual power — networks parallel to the established political system, able to organize effective protests, marches, demonstrations, and mass worker strikes, and to support individuals who are arrested or fired from their jobs in the course of those activities. Otherwise we’re fucked imo. Voters don’t get to choose policy. We vote for people. We vote for promises that are not kept. We vote for weasel words, vague convictions, “aspirational” platforms. At best, we vote to stall the inevitable, to pause the one-way ratchet of American politics for another turn. It’s a ratchet that will slowly crush us.

TerryTPlatypus ,

Yeah, i totally agree. Electoralisn is one path, however, if more people resist, it’s a way better effort. The problem is just even getting people engaged right now. The main focus should be getting these structures and networks up and running, especially in underserved places like rural towns and impoverished areas.

KinglyWeevil ,

This will basically force balkanization of the US. There are a large number of US states in both the northeast and west coast of sufficient size and economic power to just “say no” and sort of opt out of participating in the nation further. Then it’s basically, “are you willing to use the military to enforce this” and the answer is either no, or civil war.

theangryseal ,

Wayuhl. Seig my heil honey! If we could just get one uh those small gubments, wouldn’t that be nice?

Goddamnit I’m burned out.

Karyoplasma ,

It’s “Sieg Heil”. Sieg means victory in German.

theangryseal ,

Pansen ,
@Pansen@feddit.de avatar

Never say that phrase in Germany. It WlILL get you into serious trouble.

icepuncher69 ,

Dumbasses believe they are gonna ban porn by making its rule thingy LGBTQ-phobic. Bunch of idiots.

cobra89 ,

The whole problem with this playbook and why it won’t happen is because if they succeed in doing this, they will have eroded any protections they can use to stymie a Democratic president and thus allow a D president to completely undo and then swing it all back the other way.

This is even if they can overcome the ridiculous legal challenges associated with this plan. They literally just ruled against Biden having the power to control the executive branch when it comes to loan forgiveness, federal vaccine mandates, control at the border, oil drilling, hell even cruise ships. Someone they’re going to overturn all these precedents which will essentially give the executive branch unlimited power?

SCOTUS is definitely going to strike down anything that gives the executive branch more power and the risk of taking power away from the courts.

darq ,
@darq@kbin.social avatar

If the Rs get to this point, there won't be another election. It is already in the Republican playbook to undermine democracy to remain in power. That's why they gerrymander so aggressively, that's why they make it more difficult to vote in areas that vote against them. That's also why they talk about changing how Electoral College electors are chosen and have to vote.

The Republicans are gradually working towards the tipping point where they never have to face another election.

mycorrhiza OP ,

You’re going to trust SCOTUS to handle this?

These people pick SCOTUS. Their SCOTUS just mercked Roe v Wade.

cobra89 ,

No, I trust SCOTUS to preserve their own power as they’ve pretty much always have done.

PeepinGoodArgs ,

You assume that the other branches of government are fair. That’s dangerous.

cobra89 ,

I never said anything about Congress and I just said that the courts will preserve their own power. Something they’ve always done. I made no remarks about them being fair.

PowerCrazy ,

Why do you assume a Dem President would “strike down” anything? Who was president when Roe was overturned? Who controlled congress when Roe was overturned? Who immediately used the overturning of Roe to fund-raise even though they had majorities and more, 50 years after Roe was decided to ensure that it couldn’t be overturned?

cobra89 , (edited )

This comment shows a distinct lack of knowledge of how the US government works or is disingenuous.

PowerCrazy ,

The Dems had 50 years to use the government and codify Roe. They didn’t. Are you saying they also don’t understand how the government works, or do they always seem to have “other priorities?” If they always have “other priorities” what does that say about the purpose of their party?

mycorrhiza OP ,

It’s a cheap cliffhanger in a paperback. “Uh oh, your basic rights are in jeopardy again!” As long as we’re fighting a losing battle just to stand still, we have no leverage to ask for progress.

teamevil ,

Why don’t we just criminalize Nazis instead and be done with them?

mycorrhiza OP ,

If only

Dick_Justice ,
@Dick_Justice@lemmy.world avatar

This is why I get so mad when people act like political opponents “just disagree with each other”, and that we should all still be able to get along. These people won’t be happy and won’t stop until they’re allowed to murder people like me in the streets just for being gay.

SocialMediaSettler ,

They won’t be happy until cattle trains and gas chambers are included and even then …

darq ,
@darq@kbin.social avatar

For those of us not in the US, I think this also highlights the real need to loosen the US's stranglehold on the Internet at large. The US has disproportionate power to control content on the Internet as a whole, because so many services and so much infrastructure resides there.

This highlights the importance of building redundant services elsewhere in the world, and moving content outside the US in general. So if the US tries to remove LGBTQ+ content in some cultural crusade, you laugh at them. Make them firewall it, like China, if they don't like it.

cobra89 ,

As an American I couldn’t agree more. Since our government won’t and can’t (because courts keep siding with corporations) pursue any antitrust action or legislation; I beg other countries throughout the world to come up with alternatives and force competition into these market spaces.

I would love it if there were a social media platform that didn’t reside in the US, and possibly Europe so they have to follow GDPR regulations and the like.

At the same time it doesn’t seem likely because why build a platform that has to follow the regulations and cost more money when you can just build it in America instead? Sigh

uralsolo ,

2025 Presidential Transition Project

I had a totally different idea of what this was gonna be.

ravheim ,

“Pornography, manifested today in the omnipresent propagation of transgender ideology and sexualization of children, for instance, is not a political Gordian knot inextricably binding up disparate claims about free speech, property rights, sexual liberation, and child welfare. It has no claim to First Amendment protection. Its purveyors are child predators and misogynistic exploiters of women. Their product is as addictive as any illicit drug and as psychologically destructive as any crime. Pornography should be outlawed. The people who produce and distribute it should be imprisoned. Educators and public librarians who purvey it should be classed as registered sex offenders. And telecommunications and technology firms that facilitate its spread should be shuttered.”

The Alt-Right fetishizes LGBTQ+ lifestyles and can not fathom that it’s not something that the average person does… Also, every accusation is projection and a confession at this point.

doom_and_gloom , (edited )

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  • Dubious_Fart ,

    Conservative states consume more porn than liberal states, and thats according to a study on paid sites, so I bet the difference in consumption is even higher when you account for free sites.

    I’d love to see how the gravy seals react when they can no longer beat their meat to their femboy porn.

    PersnickityPenguin ,

    That’s just so weird to me. But then you see all the racist and incest porn out there and you’re like, how is this the #1 content viewed in the US?!

    aggelalex ,

    Have they forgotten about external relations? If this happens, it wouldn’t be very hard to label the US a fascist state from an outsider’s pov.

    DessertStorms ,
    @DessertStorms@kbin.social avatar

    Lol, as if the rest of the world isn't on the same race to the bottom.. If anything, some of the current, never mind potential, leaders would probably try to join forces...

    aggelalex ,

    As always there’s gonna be an Axis and an Entente…

    darq ,
    @darq@kbin.social avatar

    Would they really care?

    voodooattack ,

    I always found it extremely strange that a nation which enjoys true representative democracy has locked itself in a two-party system. And worse, they can’t even successfully launch a new, fiscally conservative party without all the batshit insanity and the prevalent bigotry associated with the GOP.

    darq ,
    @darq@kbin.social avatar

    I always found it extremely strange that a nation which enjoys true representative democracy has locked itself in a two-party system.

    That's because the US doesn't enjoy a true representative democracy at all. The US electoral system is awful.

    First of all it's a First-Past-The-Post plurality voting system. Widely regarded as pretty much the worst "reasonable" voting system around. It is not very representative, it makes voters vote strategically, and it is basically guaranteed that it will devolve into a two-party system.

    Then on top of that they have the Electoral College, which takes an already non-representative system, and makes some people's votes worth more than others.

    And then on top of that they have legalised bribery in the form of "lobbying".

    mycorrhiza OP , (edited )

    The US doesn’t enjoy a true representative democracy at all

    Pretty much. A 2014 study put it like this

    Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence.

    and later, more bluntly,

    In the United States, our findings indicate, the majority does not rule — at least not in the causal sense of actually determining policy outcomes. When a majority of citizens disagrees with economic elites and/or with organized interests, they generally lose. Moreover, because of the strong status quo bias built into the U.S. political system, even when fairly large majorities of Americans favor policy change, they generally do not get it.

    argv_minus_one ,

    So, basically, they plan to install a dictatorship in which separation of powers, states’ rights, and meaningful judicial review do not exist.

    Sounds about right.

    unminded ,
    @unminded@feddit.de avatar

    People getting aware of themselves, their oppression and connected in their communities are a huge threat, i guess. Combine that with the Internet as educational tool instead of a marketing machine and you get some desperate counter meassures, yay

    Rocketpoweredgorilla ,
    @Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca avatar

    And it won’t stop with the LGBTQ. They won’t stop until they’ve destroyed everything that doesn’t fit their specific version of religion.

    mycorrhiza OP ,

    I see it the same way I see the lead-up to the holocaust: an effort to scapegoat a minority group and divert the outrage of a downwardly mobile middle class away from wealthy capitalists

    Uranium3006 ,
    @Uranium3006@kbin.social avatar

    We have to destroy them first

    Dubious_Fart , (edited )

    Just remember, this shit started a year or 2 ago with “We must protect the children” (the current attacks, before I get well achkshuallay’d. yes I know this shit inherently goes back to Reagan, and more)

    They got their foot in the door getting “controversial” stuff out of elementary schools, and immediately seized on that to get their undesirable content out of middle, and high school, and even colleges and public libraries.

    “For the children” has always been, and will always be, nothing more than an authoritarian attempt to push through power grabs and democracy undermining legislation.

    SuddenDownpour ,

    Once they’re finished with a scapegoat, they have to start looking for the next one.

    RaoulDook ,

    I’ve wondered for awhile what it would look like if they managed to succeed in a religion-based takeover of the USA. I figure the dominant force in the world’s varieties of Christianity being Catholicism would have some influence (and since the Pope has more money than God) so it’s entirely possible that the “one true religion” ruling the country would end up being Catholicism and there would be a lot of really disappointed Protestant fascists.

    EDIT: also I was thinking that’s the more likely result as the majority of SC justices are Catholic currently

    pononimous ,

    PROVE IT! If anyone's destroying anything, it's you! You all HATE straight people with a passion I find hard to believe but you do and you'll do everything you can to destroy everything straight and all things associated WITH straight. That's YOUR agenda and everyone knows it. That's why even the GAY COMMUNITY does NOT LIKE the TQ lunatics! Prove me wrong! Protip: you can't!

    BelieveRevolt ,

    Oh look, the Zionist piece of shit is also a transphobe shocked-pikachu bridget-pride-stay-mad

    ashinadash ,
    @ashinadash@hexbear.net avatar

    Name a more iconic duo bridget-smug

    ashinadash ,
    @ashinadash@hexbear.net avatar

    even the GAY COMMUNITY does NOT LIKE the TQ

    lol lmao. Kinda curious about your definition of "TQ" here.

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