It’s great for what it is, but it’s fundamentally a kids show. It’s nicely animated, well acted and a lot more palatable to an adult audience than most but it doesn’t scratch that Trek itch for me beyond using the IP. It’s very much an action adventure cartoon. If that should good to you, then yeah go for it!
If it doesn’t, you still might want to make an exception if you’re really invested in Voyager. Characters from it aren’t just cameos, so you’ll get a lot more out of it if you’d really love to see Janeway again.
Discovery had no merits beyond glorifying space Jesus who was so much better than Spock? It was trash, and if possible, Picard was even worse. Absolute garbage written and produced by people who self professedly didn’t know star trek, had no interest in making star trek, and wanting to use the platform to push through their political views. How anyone ever even expected any of that shit to be any good is beyond me.
Most long time fans who’ve seen the entire first season describe it as the most ‘Trek’ of the new eras of shows.
It starts out intentionally in a location outside the Federation that is tonally more like SW, and with characters that either don’t know or are hostile to the Federation. It meets new viewers where they are and then brings them into the fold.
By the middle of the first season it’s celebrating everything that’s great about the franchise.
This! SNW was suprisingly back to the roots. Totally loved it and was prepared for another shitfest. Lower decks is probably not everyone’s taste, but it’s really cool too. Enjoyed much.
Yeah, heard all that a hundred times about the shit movies, about discovery and Picard (but this season, I swear, it’s great!) and none of it had anything to do with star trek, was not made by people who know and love star trek and I’m done with it. Not wasting my time anymore
As someone who despised Discovery, and avoided Picard, I’d recommend checking out SNW at a minimum. Lower Decks is also great, but I get it if the jokes and aesthetics don’t appeal to you. SNW ain’t perfect, but it’s well worth watching. Definitely on par with older Trek shows.
I get the burnout and the alienation, I’ve felt the same. But I think you’re doing yourself a disservice by letting Disco and Picard put you off of all the new shows. Anyhow, good luck 🖖!
I saw the trailers of lowerdecks and wisely decided that star trek was dead. That cringy “shields up down” song and the “big guys” chest bumping eachother because that is what real men do… It was so cringy, I’m sorry, that is not star trek
Please give SNW another go. For your own5e enjoyment. It’s really back to the old glory. At least for now. And lower decks was special. A comedy-spin-off I’d call it, but really good too. Just a special taste.
@Dyskolos@ValueSubtracted it's truly disappointing how often I see this question. I cannot give it a strong enough recommendation, our family LOVED it and my kids (and the rest of us!) can't wait to watch season 2 ❤️
@Dyskolos they definitely went that way out of the gate with the marketing, partnership with Nickelodeon, etc. But I guess I expected more of the fandom to watch it regardless, purely because it was new Trek. Doesn't seem like it turned out that way though.
There's a Kobayashi Maru-inspired episode that's an absolute treat, but I won't give any more away than that :)
It’s a slow burn introduction to Trek. The show starts off having not much to do with Trek, as the crew itself has nothing to do with the Federation or Starfleet, but they go through a process of learning what Starfleet is, and they try their best to aspire to its ideals so they might be accepted to the academy when they reach the Federation. Ideas (e.g., prime directive, augments, temporal directives) are introduced one at a time with explanations. It’s not meant to “just” be a kids’ show, it’s meant to be a kids’ introduction to Trek. And as a fan of Trek, I think also a good introduction for a non-fan who might feel lost by how vast the Trek universe is. It’s not about politics or diplomacy, but it carries the same spirit of unity, optimism, and the hope for the best of humanity that underlies Trek.
@Dyskolos@ValueSubtracted I tried 3 times to get into it and I couldn’t. Today I forced it and it was at the end of episode 9 when I said “ok, this is a good show.” That much work just to start liking a show isn’t for everyone but after finishing the first season I think it’s worth it. I think the second is set up to be really good and I’m excited for it. I didn’t like lower decks or enterprise at first either.
You made it sound very tempting. But all the other guys already sold me on giving it a chance :-) And me too. didn’t like lower decks or enterprise at first neither. But they both grew on me and totally earned their place in my trekkie-heart.
It was nice to see the author of the piece dive in to the fact that the various Paramount subsidiaries don’t always share the same goals or agree with the decisions of the others.
