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PutangInaMo , in Suggestions for cheap enterprise grade hardware to run linux headless.

Just grab a cheap server off ebay

driftWood OP ,

So this will be deployed for customer sites. I dont think they will be happy with second hand stuff from ebay šŸ˜€ For my personal stuff i would have been happy with that though.

PutangInaMo ,

In that case just go with a cloud service provider

shalafi , in Suggestions for cheap enterprise grade hardware to run linux headless.

Bought many on my last job:

www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ssn=savemyserver&store_nā€¦

These guys are the bomb.

comador , in Suggestions for cheap enterprise grade hardware to run linux headless.
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You can basically get rack mount level performance from:

  • Supermicro SuperWorkstation Tower Servers
  • Lenovo Thinkstation P Series Server Towers
  • HPE ML series Tower Servers
  • Dell Precision Tower Workstations

In your situation, Iā€™d be looking at ebay, serversupply, or other used hardware resalers that offer 2 generations back hardware. Used DDR4 based systems are abundant and cheap enough, go that route.

driftWood OP ,

Thanks for these suggestions. Will look into them. Hopefully they are still manufactured and supported by the vendors.

comador ,
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Both Supermicro and HPE have the longest support of their products than the others.

knobbysideup , in Suggestions for cheap enterprise grade hardware to run linux headless.
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I wouldnā€™t at home. Enterprise hardware requires enterprise cooling and rack mount systems are loud.

driftWood OP ,

Agreed. This is for customer site. At home i would do the same thing on a PI.

redfox , in Suggestions for cheap enterprise grade hardware to run linux headless.

I have a stack of HP Gen 8 servers in the lab that I got off of ebay, for cheap. Cause theyā€™re G8sā€¦and not 10/11 :)

driftWood OP ,

I have one in the lab at office. Were abt to be thrown out. Nursed it back to life somehow. Good to play around plus company foots the electricity bill so win-win.

possiblylinux127 , in Suggestions for cheap enterprise grade hardware to run linux headless.
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Does it need to be replaceable or upgradable?

I personally used hardware from Pine64 but its not for everyone. You also could go with an Android tablet

driftWood OP ,

Not really. Just has to run till at least 5years at least. Since this will be deployed at customer site, pine64 and android both are not feasible. Thanks for the suggestion though.

mosiacmango , in Suggestions for cheap enterprise grade hardware to run linux headless.

Your use case sounds like something a nuc or sff from minisforum could handle, but if you want ā€œcheapā€ and ā€œsmall enterprise,ā€ both ambiguous terms, the supermicro superservers should fit the bill.

Pacmanlives ,

Having run a few SuperMircos in an enterprise they do fit this bill nicely. If one dies you have at least one or two to pull

driftWood OP ,

Thanks. Will take a look.

jlh , in Suggestions for cheap enterprise grade hardware to run linux headless.

Deployment is probably more important than hardware for enterprise one-off machines.

Raspberry pis are plenty reliable, though maybe you could opt for something with a case, an N100 and a more reliable SSD, for a similar price.

polygon6121 , in Suggestions for cheap enterprise grade hardware to run linux headless.

Two things you need to answer to get any relevant answers. What is the budget and what is your required spec and software stack.

driftWood OP ,

Budget is not an issue actually. This is going to be deployed for customers but i want to it to be as cheap aspossible to get them maximum value for their money. Software stack is going to be minimal. Probably alpine linux or ubuntu server. Spec wise i think even an i3 level cpu is fine. Ram 8gb, hard disk 256 gb ssd should be more than enough. Dont require any fancy wireless stuff like wifi and Bluetooth.

catloaf , in Suggestions for cheap enterprise grade hardware to run linux headless.

Youā€™re going to need to be more specific about your use case, because if you say ā€œenterprise gradeā€ Iā€™m going to say ā€œpoweredgeā€, and those are not at all small.

driftWood OP ,

I know. I felt while writing the post that this feels wrong writing those words in same sentence. The scenario is that we would deploy the hardware on customer premises so it has to be supported and very reliable(hence enterprise grade). But i personally think that all enterprise grade hardware is way overkill for running ansible playbooks. So was trying to see if there is an intersection point between these opposite requirements.

catloaf ,

Maybe ā€œindustrial PCā€ is the category you should be looking at.

deegeese , in Microsoft rolls back decision to stop Windows 11 22H2 preview updates
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Any reason I should move off Win10?

odium ,

Yes, Linux doesnā€™t spy on you and letā€™s you do more customized stuff

deegeese ,
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Linux is great, but most games still require Windows.

electric_nan ,

If you already use Steam, you might be surprised by how many games are supported on Linux now. Lookup protondb.

deegeese ,
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According to protondb, only 40% of the top 1000 games work, or am I missing something?

brenticus ,

40% are verified as at least playable on the steam deck. Another 40% seem to have no rating at all.

74% are at least gold tier in user ratings, which basically means they run fine.

eskimofry ,

Are you going to claim that you play 400 games, let alone 1000? Besides, you can always use windows in a VM and do GPU pass-through. But i guess the convenience of windows is hard to give Only time will tell when people will get fed up of taken for a ride by corporations.

odium ,

Source? I game a lot on Linux and have only ever found two games which I couldnā€™t play on Linux. Genshin and valorant which have incompatible anti-cheats.

Thatā€™s not to say that most games which have anticheats donā€™t work. A lot of them Iā€™ve tried do work like helldivers 2, ow2, titanfall 2.

caseyweederman ,

That hasnā€™t been true for years.

eskimofry ,

If you can invest 30 bucks, crossover claims to make any windows app work seamlessly in linux. Otherwise, thereā€™s still wine to cover 90% usecases.

Worst case, you can run windows in a VM.

misanthropy ,

Anti cheat forces most people to still run windows for a number of games

eskimofry ,

Then this discussion doesnā€™t apply to those people. I donā€™t like the argument that Linux isnā€™t ready for mainstream yet but the reasons quoted are often some game that is itself a niche.

Edit: this is why I specifically said 90% use cases in my previous comment.

possiblylinux127 ,
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possiblylinux127 ,
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I think accounting might kill me

PlantJam ,

Do you hate everything about windows 10? Upgrade to 11 and everything is different just to say that it is.

catloaf ,

Security updates stop next October.

kylian0087 ,

Not if you have the enterprise LTS version. That is supported up to January 12 2027. And uh is free arr.

lud ,

You should absolutly not pirate in an enterprise environment. Leave your pirate hat at home. Remember that itā€™s bossmanā€™s money.

kylian0087 ,

I totally agree with that. Donā€™t get me wrong I never said to pirate in a enterprise environment. But at home might be a different story.

lud ,

You commented in sysadmin so I assumed you were talking about work.

trustnoone ,

If you have low blood pressure issues, moving to win 11 is a great way to increase it.

possiblylinux127 ,
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Its going EOL soon? Its called planned obsolescence

vikingqueef , in On Call Sleep Question

A fifteen minute nap may help you get some rest. If you have trouble falling asleep fast, you can use binaural beats if it helps. Sometimes I lay down for a 15 and only end up getting 5 min of actual unconsciousness but it makes a world of difference when you have to clock back in less than 2 hours.

vikingqueef OP , in Microsoft rolls back decision to stop Windows 11 22H2 preview updates

Back and forth like always

MystikIncarnate , in Leaving VMware? Consider these 5 FOSS hypervisors ā€¢ The Register

Can anyone weigh in on whether any of these can be used for a cluster?

I use VMware in my homelab via vMUG, and Iā€™m sure thatā€™s going to get destroyed next, so Iā€™m looking for an alternative that can allow for running VMs across hosts using shared storage with migrations between hosts. Iā€™d prefer FOSS, but the only hypervisor I know supports all of this right now is hyper-V. I really REALLY donā€™t want to use hyper-vā€¦ Most of my workloads are Linux, with a handful of Windows servers that I use for an internal domain and testing.

Maybe OpenStack or OpenNebula?

Any suggestions?

possiblylinux127 OP ,
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Why wouldnā€™t you use Proxmox?

MystikIncarnate ,

I have not observed anyone using it in a cluster.

From the brief Google searching Iā€™ve done it appears to be possible, though, Iā€™m not sure if proxmox skills will help me professionally. I used VMware before because I needed to learn VMware esxi and vcenter. I know it fairly well at this point.

I want to target a hypervisor solution used in large companies, Iā€™m not sure thatā€™s proxmox. Currently Iā€™m leaning towards OpenStack, since I know some cloud providers use it for VPS offerings. I know enough about hyper-V that I know I donā€™t want to use it, ever. At least outside the context of Azure VMs. I canā€™t really do Azure cloud at home (theyā€™re is a way, Iā€™ve looked into it, but itā€™s very expensive), though my current workplace uses Azure extensively.

Iā€™m just not aware of any company using proxmox as a VM platform, whether single host or clustered.

possiblylinux127 OP ,
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Well I canā€™t speak for enterprise but for me it works pretty well in a 3 node cluster. I can live transfer VMs that are hosting services with very little interruption. Proxmox also supports HA and Ceph but I havenā€™t used those features.

MystikIncarnate ,

Good to know. Iā€™ll examine everything carefully. Iā€™ve been debating on replacing my existing monolithic iSCSI storage configuration with Ceph, so maybe that will weigh inā€¦ Having something that can access Ceph natively is a big plus. Otherwise I need something to sit in between that can basically translate Ceph to iSCSI luns, which is just more complexity that Iā€™d like to avoid.

A lot of things to consider. Thank you for the comments.

MystikIncarnate , in ICANN proposes creating .INTERNAL domain

I have clients that use internal, but they do it as a subdomain; so internal.contoso.com

Any internal only domains that I set up are probably going to go the same way. Iā€™ve used domain.local previously, and the DNS headache I get from that is immeasurable.

With so many things going ā€œto the cloudā€ or whatever, the internal.domain.tld convention tends to make more sense to me.

Whatā€™s everyone else doing?

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