[SPOILERS] Okay so what do we think of the first two episodes so far? How do you feel about how the last 20 years of Frasier‘s life was explained? Do you feel like the Freddy/Frasier dynamic is reminiscent of Frasier/Martin? Any predictions for how the storyline is going to progress?
My wife and I watched the first episode so far and we did get a few chuckles from banter between Nicholas Lyndhurst and Kelsey Grammer. It honestly wasn’t as horrible as we were thinking it might be. Especially once the Freddy and Frasier heart to heart happened. Kitchen scenes of someone walking in and out to comedic timing was a great call back, and “I’m no stranger to an underperforming dinner party”.
We’re still on the fence because the lack of David Hyde Pierce is felt sorely. Niles’ son is not doing any favors for the show. The quick gloss over of Charlotte was annoying. The forced “how do we get Frasier to live with Freddy” plot was missing a lot. The original set-up to Niles pawning off his dad to Frasier before he met Daphne was amazing, this was just kinda feeling tacked on.
Most of our favorite Frasier moments come from the “MASH effect” or the quick switch from hilarious to somber stories. The digging in to the psyche of why a character is acting the way they are and analyzing it so everyone can come out better at the end is what we loved. I hope they keep that aspect going. There is a glimpse of that with the Freddy story I just hope it doesn’t end there.
Genuine question as a person who’s watched Frasier at least a dozen times, what’s making people hopeful that it’ll be any good?
I ask because the sequels to fan loved shows and movies over the past decade have all fallen short, seemed like cash grabs, don’t capture what made the original good or fun, etc. I really can’t think of any that worked out for me (viewership numbers aside). Am I being pessimistic unnecessarily? Are people being too hopeful? Idk. I’ve been burned before and am going in with that expectation.
In regards to this it worries me they’re trying the live audience sitcom format again. The last one I tried was that 90s show and I realized either live audience sitcoms should stay a thing of the 20th century, or I guess I aged out of it. On the other hand watching a non live audience format of Frasier might be too weird in a different way.
Back in Frasier’s day it made sense to spinoff a sitcom with another similarly filmed sitcom, I’m just feeling it’s a thing of the past and won’t hold up to modern comedy.
These are great points I didn’t think of until now. Frasier’s best episodes revolved around the strong cast. Coming in 20 years later with a 99% new cast seems destined to not hold up well. The Crane Boy just doesn’t have the same ring to it.
I get that time marches on, but at a certain point, will the story actually reflect that, or will the disappearance of everyone simply be waved away with a line of dialogue? You’re right, the writers have an uphill battle on their hands.
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I have to imagine a lot of this “I’m done with woke star trek” crap is perpetuated by bots and shills. Post histories on Reddit for accounts saying these right wing talking points were either days old in response to some new Trek show or episode, or years old accounts that haven’t posted in forever then suddenly posted a bunch of talking points in every thread they could find.
There were definitely legit accounts of people upset by new Trek for other reasons but far outnumbered by “anti wokester” puppet accounts. When it came to Twitter I wouldn’t bat a lash if one out of every hundred accounts were bots. After noticing their trends they get easier to spot. It’s the only thing that makes sense when the alternative is there are legions of trek fans that never noticed how progressive the shows were and suddenly decided to be angry in the past couple years.
Mega thread for Reboot Episodes 1&2
[SPOILERS] Okay so what do we think of the first two episodes so far? How do you feel about how the last 20 years of Frasier‘s life was explained? Do you feel like the Freddy/Frasier dynamic is reminiscent of Frasier/Martin? Any predictions for how the storyline is going to progress?
So psyched for the Frasier reboot to premier today!
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