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Overzeetop , (edited )

The advantage of LVLs are that

  1. you can put them up 1 ply at a time
  2. they hold nails/cut easily
  3. the lumber yard will likely size them for you if you ask

The disadvantage is that the depth will be about 1/16th of the span when using 2-3 plies.

The advantage of steel is that an I beam (W shape is what you want, for “Wide Flange Beam”) will be about 2/3 the depth of an LVL. The disadvantages are

  1. An engineer will likely charge you about $600-800 to size this beam, but will also tell you how to top connect it
  2. It will be one piece (fwiw it will weigh about the same as the LVL)
  3. You will have to buy a 40’ piece, or pay a premium to have it cut down from a 40’ piece. (stock lengths of steel are 20’/40’)

Note that nobody can properly answer your question from the data given (edit - just notice you mentioned 16’ rafters below). You would need to include the span of the rafters and (at least) your location to determine the snow loads and wind loads (edit: and seismic, though it’s unlikely to control for this design) for sizing the connections.

Disclaimer: I’m a structural engineer, but I’m not your structural engineer. For a long span like this I recommend contacting someone licensed in your jurisdiction to help you out.

Overzeetop ,

One option would be to make the beam a flush condition. To get a 16’ span with rafters you’re going to be using at least 2x8s. That’s 7.25" deep. If you were set the top of the beam at the top of the rafters and hang them from the beam (simpson or USP hangers) that buys you some space. Now an 11.88" LVL would only stick down 5-5/8" below the bottom of the rafters. (okay, 5-3/4"-6" with the additional slope over the 5.25" of beam) I’m not saying that a 3 ply 11x88 LVL with a 2.1E, bearing in a BC6 cap on 6x6s would work for your application, but the height tolerance would seem to add up in your favor.

Overzeetop ,

I don’t think the “indicators” are a useful metric of personal betterment, which is what makes individual people feel better about the economy. Stock market being up, interest rates and inflation going down, productivity up and salaries on the increase are all positive conditions. But if your salary isn’t rising as fast as the combined inflation of the past 4 years and all of your companies profits are feeding dividends and stock buy-backs instead of plant expansion and increasing benefits then it’s a net negative in your bank account at the end of the month. Insurance rates - auto, health, homeowners (esp if you’re coastal) are soaring up, which hits the average pocketbook but probably has no weight in economic indicators. Lord help you if you’re paying tuition or taking out loans for college. It’s more than $4000 per class at a typical state university, if you’re not subsidized by scholarship or the state.

It doesn’t help that the news cycle is (somewhat rightly) pointing out how imbalanced and broken the socioeconomic system is.

Overzeetop ,

our government doesn’t mandate a living wage

Two words: Davis Bacon

Overzeetop ,

They should start by rounding them up and putting them in controlled areas. We can call them Ghettos. Then they can control everything and everyone going in and out, keep them under close watch. Then we can start an orderly cleanse. A Final Solution to the problem with Palestinians.

This sounds so familiar…

‘People are happier in a walkable neighborhood’: the US community that banned cars ( www.theguardian.com )

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Overzeetop ,

https://beehaw.org/pictrs/image/e6d4abbf-088f-4e9b-bbe9-1f4bfa457386.webp

Somehow I expected this to be outside of the Phoenix area; like, on its own. It looks more like an excuse for a high-density living concept, and going “no cars” means not having to set aside any space for parking; you just pack more people into the same area to make more money (~$27,000/yr for a 950SF, 2 BR apartment, if you’re curious; you can’t buy here). It’s literally an apartment complex that takes up a single “block” in Tempe. I guess it will depend on how happy you are with the shops they can attract to a community with only 1500-2000 people and no parking for outside customers.

Overzeetop ,

Here, though there’s more than just public transit - there’s a huge shopping mall/complex just half a mile north of this area. That’s a very reasonable walking distance for nearly everyone, especially given how flat this area is. Of course, you still have to navigate 3-4 multi-lane highway crossings, but at least it’s close.

Out of curiosity, I googled how many people it takes to support a single grocery store, and the top 5-6 links appeared to suggest between 3500 and 5000 people are needed. That sounds pretty close to my town, though we have a couple of monster stores so we may be closer to 8000:1. Restaurants and bars are going to be similarly constrained, though, so the diversity of options in such a small apartment complex will probably stay on the lean side (again, given little or no on-site parking and a generally car-centric city surrounding the area).

Biden accused of betrayal of Khashoggi over push to deepen Saudi ties ( www.theguardian.com )

The charge, from human rights campaigners and some Democrats, follows the fifth anniversary of the murder of Jamal Khashoggi at the hands of Saudi regime agents and comes amid mounting criticism of a proposed new defence treaty between Washington and Riyadh that could result in Saudi Arabia granting official recognition to...

Overzeetop ,

So Khashoggi gets murdered on Trump’s watch and Trump’s response about MBS is - and I quote from Woodward’s book - “I saved his a**,” “I was able to get Congress to leave him alone. I was able to get them to stop.” And then, after Trump leaves office MBS gives his son, who has no hedge fund management experience, a $2B investment for his new hedge fund. But Biden is blamed for betrayal based in his desire to engage the country and not “walk away and leave a vacuum to be filled by China, Russia, or Iran.”

Did Putin ghost write this story for the Guardian himself, or is it run of the mill, mid-level Russian propaganda?

Overzeetop ,

Biden is a laws-and-procedures man; one for the status quo. It’s why he’s getting a lot done in the US. It’s also why, short of agreeing that heads of state should be prosecuted in abstentia for crimes in foreign nations, he has no choice to admit that a foreign head of state is due immunity from prosecution. He’s told MBS that he holds him personally accountable, according to the article. But Khashoggi is a (very) unfortunate pawn in this game, and the only other three options are to kidnap, try, and jail/execute a foreign leader, place sanctions on or cut off all ties with one of the richest and most economically powerful [and nominally one of our few middle eastern allied] countries, or go to war and nuke the entire palace from orbit just to be sure. None of those three are viable - practically or politically - and so he’s fucking stuck with what he has.

There are, of course, inadequate solutions like not allowing him personally to arrive or transit the US, but that’s a bullshit limitation for someone worth half a trillion dollars and does nothing to stop him from killing again or bring peace to the Khashoggi family.

Overzeetop ,

McCarthy was doomed from the start as a leader and not only has gotten nothing accomplished but has negotiated in bad faith with the administration and has undertaken unproductive and unwarranted “investigations” which his own witnesses admit do not merit review.

The Democrats are ready for a power sharing structure and will gladly reach across the aisle to form a coalition which excludes the freedom caucus. They voted for the continuing resolution because it was right for the country. Ultimately, if the Republicans choose not to govern because they are beholden to the clown show that is their right flank, they need to be held accountable for any damage they do. And history says they will.

It’s worth noting that the Democrats have a similar problem in the Senate, but/also from their right flank. The only difference is that the clown show only has two members - from WV and AZ - and they are moderates (and I use that term loosely) rather than extremes so that business gets done but without useful progress, politically.

Overzeetop ,

As the father of a college student, I see a lot of kids going to college for a “college degree” like it’s a token that provides a job. If you ask them what they want to do as a profession when they get out, they don’t have an answer. That’s a fundamental disconnect in the purpose of college. It’s technically the student’s responsibility to determine what they need to become employable, but these young adults simply don’t have the world experience to know what is necessary. Corporations are looking for relatively specific skill sets when hiring, and the average swath of humanities and science degrees doesn’t fulfill those needs. For the price of tuition colleges should be guiding them, but they mostly wash their hands of any post-graduate needs. The system devolves into a gamification of the experience where “success” is navigating the various and sundry graduation requirements and the end result is a degree rather than a person with intellectual skills they can market directly.

That’s not to say college is useless, just misguided. It’s like getting the best tailor in the world for your next public engagement. You and your college/tailor may have produced the finest 17th century Russian ball gown ever seen but now you need to find a 17th century Russian ball; you can’t wear that as an intern to an accounting audit. Not to pick on 17th century Russian gowns, you can’t wear a fabulous business suit (which might be okay for an accounting audit) as crew on a civil engineering/surveying team or at an archeological dig.

All that said, I’m going to go as far as to say a pretty large helping of value should have come from parents or mentors. We, as parents, have spent most of our children’s formative years either entirely ignoring the need to have a focus, or hyperfocusing to the exclusion of a bigger picture. It’s always been this way, of course, but screwing up in college didn’t used to result in life-burdening debt, and parents need to step up a lot earlier.

(apologies for not reading the article, I was determined to be a robot at the capcha)

Overzeetop ,

Oh, now, don’t be rash. Guns don’t people, people kill people, or so I’m told. We should just remove guns from the “bad” people.

Based on my observations, disallowing (checks notes) males from owning or operating guns would seem to be a near universal solution.

Overzeetop ,

The Foundation series by Azimov. I read it when I was a teenager and remembered very little. It’s a lot scarier today.

Overzeetop ,

Well, now you’re making me want to go back into the series. I liked the premise of the first, but found the writing foreign - which, hey, it is! I felt like I really should read more everyday Chinese fiction as I didn’t understand a lot of the nuance and it felt less polished (to my American sensibilities) as a result.

Overzeetop ,

Nearly all of those books are nice, quick reads. I read them before playing Witcher 3 and watching the NF series first season. It greatly enhanced the game; it made me dislike the screenplay version.

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