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Schmoo ,
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What you described is just welfare, not socialism. Socialism is collective ownership of the means of production, meaning there would be no need to re-distribute wealth as it would be fairly distributed from the start.

What you're thinking of is more along the lines of what Scandinavian countries have, which is just capitalism with social democracy and extensive welfare programs.

Schmoo ,
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I've noticed a trend in some new American media coming out of more openly positive depictions of socialism/communism. The new HBO The Last Of Us series for example has this scene, and the new Fallout series has a more centrist/neoliberal take but at least calls out how the right uses communist as a "dirty word," though she qualifies the statement by first saying "I'm not a communist."

Schmoo ,
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It bothers me that you’re being heavily downvoted for saying that direct action is more effective/important than voting, so I’m chiming in to say I agree with you.

This isn’t an ‘enlightened centrist’ position here, just a realistic one. I will continue to vote Democrat and encourage others to do the same, but I don’t have any illusions that doing so is anything more than damage control.

Our political system in the US is corrupt, not just the people within it. Changing it will require external support.

Schmoo ,
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Come on, you’ve built a massive strawman going on very little. I agree with a lot of what you are saying, but the position you’re attacking is clearly not the position Danterious intended to express. You act as if they stated both parties are equally bad when they explicitly stated the opposite.

Schmoo ,
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No, it won’t really, because all you would be doing is removing the corrupt people from power without changing or replacing the corrupt system in which they operated.

Systemic change happens on 2 fronts, both internal and external.

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