stepan

stepan OP , 7 months ago

I’m not actually Степан, I just like the cat

stepan , 7 months ago

Warren Farrell and Scott Galloway went into this

stepan OP , 9 months ago

Bingo

stepan OP , 9 months ago

Ok I think it’s fixed

stepan , 9 months ago (edited 9 months ago)

Yeah I see

stepan , 9 months ago (edited 9 months ago)

Pretty much all female teachers, constantly scolded and lectured boys, said they were aggressive and misbehaved (honestly the boys were really mild in kindergarten)

Fast forward to seventh grade, the boys turned out exactly the way the teacher said but worse.

All female teachers through the years of elementary, except for like 1

stepan , 9 months ago

I’ve seen a few other articles on this issue and the double standard is astounding.

If a conventional minority group struggles, they need to be helped. If it’s a man, screw them! They’re oppressive and don’t deserve help.

If men are dominant in certain fields, it’s a sign of systematic discrimination against women. If women are dominant in certain fields, then that’s just because men suck at xyz and this is just the natural outcome.

And the funny part is, I read one article about this and the editor (a middle aged woman as usual) said that this imbalanced ratio is an issue because surprise surprise young women won’t have enough men to date!

It’s almost like men’s issues only matter if it affects women, and somehow that’s the only concern.

stepan , 9 months ago (edited 9 months ago)

Fair enough, but I’d make a few objections,

I don’t think an imbalance necessarily means that we should automatically assume discrimination, for example there is a small correlation between sex and interest (men to objects, women to living things) which may account for some discrepancy in certain fields.

Hiring committees would depend but very often we see HR is majority female, and some studies show that female named job applications in certain cases may be more favoured even when the exact same application is given with a male name.

In terms of school, I can attest that boys need to stop fucking around during class time and actually pay attention, but I’ve seen another study show that for the exact same work, public school teachers sometimes mark higher for a girls work.

The last point I would make is that there are quite a few female only grants and bursaries and aid programs, but there’s very few that outright exist for males.

That’s my two cents, but I understand your perspective as well.

I think Warren Farrell especially, and a bit of Leonard Sax as well have gone into this in more detail.

Unfortunately the mainstream feminist objection is that “men should just make their own support organizations” but the problem is sometimes the government won’t give them a nickel, which I find absurd.

This guy in Calgary Canada made a men’s domestic violence shelter, (shockingly women are first statistically to initiate domestic violence, which I didn’t know). This was around 2011 or so? But the local feminists at the time online were saying that he should not feel entitled to government funding and only women’s shelters should get government funding. I think he killed himself afterwards.

So it seems like when men do band together to make a support group, it doesn’t get the same amount of government support as a women’s group will.

stepan , 9 months ago

Agreed, this gets frustrating sometimes because it’s so common in a lot of articles talking about this issue.

stepan , 9 months ago

I don’t find Bell Hooks explanation satisfactory either.

Peterson is a jackass but regurgitation of some of the same superficial 90s feminism (which hasn’t actually helped the issue of violent young men) is also something to be critiqued.

stepan , 9 months ago

Exactly. Self fulfilling prophecy and resentment, in a nutshell. The Conservatives and the feminists are contributing to this issue.

stepan , 10 months ago

“those darn young men are not working! now we have a construction labor shortage! lazy young men floundering!”

gee its almost like not being able to afford a condo suite and being unable to afford adulthood has young men checking out of life

stepan , 9 months ago

Alot of assumptions made in this video and it’s attempting to draw causation from simple correlations.

A few good points but alot of conjecture on this one.

stepan , 9 months ago

Please stop bringing in body tropes into this.

stepan , 9 months ago

Can we distinguish men who don’t consent to using contraception with men who basically worship tate and chauvinism?

I don’t use them because I don’t want them, and I don’t owe anybody an explanation.

I think there’s alot of men like me that don’t wanna be lumped up with Andrew Tate.