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[Discussion] What are your opinions on "Open Socialism"? ( kbin.social )

"Open Socialism (OS) is a rethink of how to manage a society. It starts with an optimistic base concept that focuses on broad scale cooperation, but then layers on processes and ideas to keep people motivated and prevent corruption. It looks at human nature through the lens of our evolution and attempts to recapture the good...

ryan ,

Ok I've been clicking through that site and, besides requiring knowledge of docker to contribute (which will cut out a lot of people) I had to dig a few pages in to figure out what they want to do differently from any other socialism.

Society in OS is managed by small autonomous teams known as circles. There is a hierarchy of circles from the top of society all the way to the bottom. eg. Main Leadership -> Health -> Disease Prevention And Treatment -> Cancer Research. Circles define the purpose and charter of sub-circles, however they do not control them. Business has shown us that top-down orchestration is highly ineffective.

Not wrong, but god this is so tech bro-y. And hey, we have a word for your circles, they're committees.

Circles are focused on leadership and do not perform actual work. Instead a circle will create a project and assign members to enact a specific piece of work. A clear separation of leadership (circle) and producing value through work (project) helps each of these concerns be better and more explicitly addressed.

oh my god do you not see already the clear separation between the circles, the elite who get elected and re-elected to their positions, and the workers?

Circles use ideas like consensus seeking decision making, openness, sub-circle and project creation to do their job. However, society is large with many different areas. Agile software development practices has shown that there is no one size fits all practices and flexibility is required.

Jesus fucking christ I do not want my government to be run on a sprint model. I do not. We can't run a government like "whoopsie looks like what we released accidentally stops food stamps to pregnant women we'll log that as a bug and put in our backlog teehee"

As someone who works in tech, agile and a lot of what they have mentioned here is great for tech, and I don't fucking trust in the slightest that it could be applied to a government.

soratoyuki , (edited )

It's already happened in Utah, were Bibles were temporarily banned in school libraries until courts the school board invented an exception to return them. These laws were never designed to be honesty and neutrally applied, and it's a grave mistake to assume otherwise.

[Analysis] This Is How We Finally Kill Turbotax ( www.youtube.com )

Filing your taxes could be free starting this year. The IRS is running a direct-file pilot program. The goal is to make companies like TurboTax obsolete through a system where your taxes are filled out for you. But tax prep companies are spending millions to block them....

LegendofDragoon ,
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Republicans need every vote they can get our else even their cheating won't work. He literally can't afford to alienate the people who threatened his life.

DucktorZee ,

While these groups are the culprit during this round, the entirely of the US government and the post secondary educational system is truly to blame. Universities have been peddling an overpriced ware to under informed children and their parents for decades. Terrifying then with the fear of losing ground in middle America while offering a product with ever decreasing value for ever increasing cost, partly because of student loans. The government has then enabled greater and greater burden upon these children and their parents by allowing special loans to groups who should never have had them, by protecting those loans from bankruptcy and by making $$ from baking interest as these groups struggled to pay. It’s a travesty. It should never have happened. Education should be free for all.

admiralteal ,

According to the SCOTUS, a bill that specifically gives the executive permission to modify or waive student loan terms during an emergency (like the national state of emergency brought on by a pandemic) does not give them permission to forgive $10k of those loans. That's too big to count as a "modification" but apparently too small to count as a "waiver". And it's fine to file lawsuits on behalf of people who do not want to file that suit and are not harmed by the matter. Standing no longer matters before the partisan legislative body known as the Supreme Court.

It's brazenly clear that the justices on the court are partisans, and the conservatives in particular are partisans who do not even attempt to justify making the rulings they want to rule. If anyone alive thinks there was any merit to this lawsuit, they're a fool, an idiot, or both. It's heartening to see young people are largely not being tricked.

xc2215x ,

Spez loves Musk apparently.

Seasoned_Greetings ,

I’ve heard that moneied interests are paying Twitter and now reddit behind the scenes to ruin their respective communities. It’s because every time something happens that shakes the foundation of who’s in charge, it’s always a social media coordinated public effort behind the push for change. The most recent one I can think of is the Twitter-fueled women’s rights movement in Iran. Or even the push to get progressive names like AOC elected.

So now we have rich interests paying CEOs to sabotage their own companies in order to better maintain the status quo.

I know this concept falls squarely into conspiracy theory territory, but with Twitter and reddit, both once bastions of progressive organization, going to shit at the same time, and threads popping up with the messaging that they explicitly want to avoid news and politics, you can’t help but wonder if there’s a concentrated effort behind the scenes to break up communities that are actually starting to make a difference.

agentshags ,
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Plenty of liberal gun owners pal, they just don’t drink the same flavor aide

brianshatchet ,

I already knew they didn't want moderators to have better anti-spam tools since it would decrease the apparent activity to attract advertisers.

Pons_Aelius ,

Most people expect gradual change when many things in life are more like punctuated equilibrium.

Stable state despite gradual change in underlying conditions.

Then rapid change to new stable state.

Neato ,
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Nobody wants to change. It's hard and expensive. Until they have to because conditions have required it. Then they change as fast as possible to a new state that works in the new conditions so they can survive.

This July 4th, let's remember that unfair economic treatment was a major cause of the American Revolutionary War. Our revolt has this much in common. ( kbin.social )

There were numerous factors that led to the revolution, but a key one was unfair taxation. The British parliament was in a position of power and thought that they could behave with impunity for further profits....

HandsHurtLoL ,

This is a reach.

This is the second time I've seen something on kbin trying to dress the reddit migration to the Fediverse up as some hugely patriotic thing.

We don't need that, we don't benefit from it. This is how you create demagogues. Don't infuse nationalism into the Fediverse. That is super problematic and I think you're going to be in for a rude awakening when you see how much more European the Fediverse is than reddit was.

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  • ANuStart ,

    Ron DeSantis sucks. For being a member of the party of small government this fucker is an absolute control-freak that constantly uses his governmental authority to control people's lives and businesses.

    Why would anyone, especially conservatives, agree to vote for this guy and consolidate all power to him and his yes-men?

    acronymesis ,
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    OP wants criticisms backed up with "facts and citations" (though I'm sure actual facts will be conveniently ignored), so please allow me!

    Ron DeSantis is a fascist, full stop.

    Early Signs of Fascism

    Credit: U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum

    admiralteal ,

    Progressives need to stop pretending that packing the court would open the door for conservatives to do the same.

    At this point, conservatives will simply do the same if they lose control of it. They do not care about law and order and they do not care about mores. They only care about oppressing the weak and solidifying their power. The SCOTUS is a political institution that needs immediate reform.

    We're racing to doomsday and they're leaning on the accelerator while progressives argue about whether it's safe to turn off the ignition.

    keeb420 ,

    thats what i dont get about this whole thing. i thought in order to bring a case you had to have standing and courts would examine if your case was legit. how did it even get this far? wtf? i hate this country sometimes.

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