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HWK_290 , to Politics in A Thunderous Fart Wrecked an RFK Jr. Event

And that thunderous fart’s name?

Robert F Kennedy, Jr

Flaky_Fish69 ,
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the F stands for "flatulence"

HWK_290 ,

Oh, you blowhard!

Flaky_Fish69 ,
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if you have to blow hard, it's probably not a fart....

Lemmylefty , to Politics in A Thunderous Fart Wrecked an RFK Jr. Event
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Remember when an enthusiastic scream ended a presidential campaign? Remember when “binders full of women” was a huge gaffe? Remember when misspelling a common word was indicative of idiocy not fit for the Oval Offive?

I remember. Fucking hell.

dojan ,
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No because politics has been a fucking joke my entire lifetime. I’m 29. It’s been a long farce and it shows no signs of stopping.

HandsHurtLoL ,

As someone 10 years older than you, let me tell you: the Bill Clinton campaign was amazing. Like, completely forget whatever you think you know about him being a womanizer for a moment...

Clinton went onto a late night talk show geared to black audiences (The Arsenio Hall Show) and played jazz saxophone live like Duke Silver. Clinton, in the typical politician suit, would get on stage and rip a blue streak of reedy sex in front of the house band. In the '90s, everyone jokingly called him the first black president.

At a town hall against George Bush Sr., a black woman asked a question how national debt impacted each of them individually. GB fumbled in his response, but Clinton deftly jumped into show he wasn't out of touch. Collective memory repaints this moment as Clinton with his steely blue eyes stepping forward and saying, "I feel your pain," in a lilting cadence and bit his lip empathizingly. It was noteworthy that a politician was saying "I see you, I hear you" at this kind of event.

And myself being a child in the '90s, Clinton talked to young people about the role they play in democracy and the future of America in a way that had me believing that I could vote for him at the age of 10. Every other politician up to then had talked about children like they weren't in the same room watching the same news as their parents. After becoming president, Clinton went onto Nickelodeon and did a town hall with preteens and teens about smoking that walked that line between getting lectured at and being invested in. It was hosted by a Nickelodeon journalist named Linda Ellerbee who had a show that presented the news to kids for 25 years. Clinton's directed messaging to children probably came from his own experience of having met JFK when he was in his teens as part of a leadership program he was selected for. Shaking JFK's hand and getting to talk with him has been described as the moment young William Jefferson Clinton knew he would one day run for president.

I'm sad we haven't had a politician like this in a terribly long time. I will say though that from a couple of videos I've seen, Obama has been great with children and Biden really talks to kids in ways that show that they will one day be adults. I've never seen them just use kids as political props in a kiss the baby and smile for the photo, then hand over the kid back to the parent like the kid is plutonium.

I will add here that when I first wrote this up and then went to go find source links, it stood out to me how much of my memories were inaccurate compared to the videos I found. I am going to chalk part of this up to the Mandela Effect, but also part of it to remembering the impact these moments had on me and the way these moments were played up in the immediate retelling in conversations at the dining table and from the media (such as SNL who parodied Clinton for well over 10 years). It's weird to think that my memories are wrong, but I think it speaks more to the legendary status of Clinton before his scandals broke out and he was impeached.

DragonAce ,

Remember when puking in a foreign delegates lap was a huge gaffe and seriously hurt a presidential reelection campaign? Now people are seriously considering testing the theory that someone can be president while in federal prison.

Lemmylefty ,
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If it’s federal prison then there’s the very real chance the next test is “can he get away with pardoning himself?”

At least if it’s (hopefully also, via Georgia) state prison, that’s a higher bar to clear.

Notyocheese ,

not if that state has a Republican Gov. They all seem to be on the same page that Republican crimes don't count.

keeb420 ,

theres nothing saying you cant be president or run for president from prison. people have ran in the past.

however that traitorous asshat and his band of thieves should never be allowed anywhere near any lever of power ever again.

Flaky_Fish69 ,
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there's also nothing saying that a (state) prison has to let their inmate go. or have internet access. or be allowed to, you know, run a government from their cell. There are some things saying that if the president is incapable, the vice president steps up.

it's a big unknown grayzone, but the party of State's Rights will be in a very amusing position if this should become a thing. (I doubt it will. he lost in 2020, and his support has only diminished.)

FlowVoid ,

This isn’t really the same. RFK Jr didn’t fart, one of his supporters did during an argument with another supporter.

For his part, RFK Jr supposedly “remained stoic” throughout. That said, he is still an idiot.

grizzledgrizzly , to Politics in A Thunderous Fart Wrecked an RFK Jr. Event
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Crop dusting chem trails …

ivanafterall ,

And there's the debut album title.

A Thunderous Fart - Cropdusting Chemtrails

therewolftherecastle , to Politics in A Thunderous Fart Wrecked an RFK Jr. Event

Great band name

Notyocheese ,

A Thunderous Fart - A Jack Black enterprise.

comedy , to Politics in A Thunderous Fart Wrecked an RFK Jr. Event
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Is there video? Please let there be video.

Talaraine ,
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I've looked but cannot find.

comedy ,
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What a shame 🫤 that would have been amazing

Hairyblue , to Politics in A Thunderous Fart Wrecked an RFK Jr. Event
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Farting? If he had good policies this wouldn't matter to me. But he doesn't. And he is an anti science nut. So, he will not be getting my vote.

dismalnow ,
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I love the low-speed-chase aspect of your comment.

Harrumph.

Neato , to Politics in A Thunderous Fart Wrecked an RFK Jr. Event
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Dechert later told the Post: “I apologize for using my flatulence as a medium of public commentary in your presence.”

Amazing.

FlowVoid ,

Dechert (the guy who farted) is a clown, he also asked the reporter to refer to him as a “beer fueled sex rocket”.

Sir_Osis_of_Liver , to Politics in A Thunderous Fart Wrecked an RFK Jr. Event
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So this is how democracy dies ... with a thunderous fart.

jargoggles , to Politics in Henry Kissinger at 100: Still a War Criminal

Always relevant whenever this monster is mentioned:

"Once you’ve been to Cambodia, you’ll never stop wanting to beat Henry Kissinger to death with your bare hands. You will never again be able to open a newspaper and read about that treacherous, prevaricating, murderous scumbag sitting down for a nice chat with Charlie Rose or attending some black-tie affair for a new glossy magazine without choking. Witness what Henry did in Cambodia – the fruits of his genius for statesmanship – and you will never understand why he’s not sitting in the dock at The Hague next to Milošević."

  • Anthony Bourdain
HWK_290 , to Politics in Henry Kissinger at 100: Still a War Criminal
style99 , to Politics in Henry Kissinger at 100: Still a War Criminal
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It’s easy to cast Kissinger as a master geostrategist, an expert player in the game of nations. But do the math. Hundreds of thousands of dead in Bangladesh, Cambodia, and East Timor, perhaps a million in total. Tens of thousands dead in Argentina’s Dirty War. Thousands killed and tens of thousands tortured by the Chilean military dictatorship, and a democracy destroyed. His hands are drenched in blood.

Kissinger is routinely lambasted by his critics as a “war criminal,” though has never been held accountable for his misdeeds. He has made millions as a consultant, author, and commentator in the decades since he left government. I once heard of a Manhattan cocktail reception where he scoffed at the “war criminal” label and referred to it almost as a badge of honor. (“Bill Clinton does not have the spine to be a war criminal,” he joshed.) Kissinger has expressed few, if any, regrets about the cruel and deadly results of his moves on the global chessboard. When Koppel gently nudged him about the secret bombing in Cambodia, Kissinger took enormous umbrage and shot back: “This program you’re doing because I’m going to be 100 years old. And you are picking a topic of something that happened 60 years ago? You have to know it was a necessary step.” As for those who still protest him for that and other acts, he huffed, “Now the younger generation feels if they can raise their emotions, they don’t have to think.”

CAPSLOCKFTW , to Politics in Birthright citizenship is fundamental to “who we are as a nation.” So why do Republicans attack it?

Because they’re racist.

toothpaste_sandwich ,

Ding ding ding ding ding!

xkforce ,

That and citizen tests give them an easy way to “other” anyone they want. Just like the old poll tests that they used to do that were ambiguously written so that they could selectively pass or fail anyone they wanted

STUPIDVIPGUY , to Politics in Birthright citizenship is fundamental to “who we are as a nation.” So why do Republicans attack it?

because republicans are the antithesis of what it means to be american

Anomandaris ,
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What could be a more fundamental part of the American Dream than the "tired, poor, huddled masses" trying to give their children a better future through naturalization.

This is just another Republican nail in the coffin of that dream, killing everything that made others envious of America while they shout more and more shrilly that America is still the best country on the planet.

TheKingBee ,
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I disagree I think the Republicans are the modern embodiment of the real American Spirit.

Founded on genocide and chattel slavery, grown with more genocide and wars of expansion. White hegemony enforced through laws and lynchings. Redlining, supreme Court approved internment camps, so many wars on poor countries filled with brown people that have done literally nothing to us.

Any progress you feel is a modern affect and not actually reaching the core of who we are as a people…

STUPIDVIPGUY ,

Then maybe we need to redefine it.

BartsBigBugBag ,

Or maybe we can stop tying our identity to our place of birth.

Umbra , to Politics in Birthright citizenship is fundamental to “who we are as a nation.” So why do Republicans attack it?

Lol, what a ridiculous headline. Fundamental??

hoodatninja ,
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Well, yes. Naturalization has been there from the beginning and "Birthright Citizenship" as we currently know it was solidified during reconstruction. So yeah, it's pretty fundamental to who we are as a nation. It's responsible for who we are as a nation. Quite literally, in fact.

spaceghoti OP ,

FTA:

After the Civil War, Congress overrode the veto of then-President Andrew Johnson to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1866, which declared people “of every race and color, without regard to any previous condition of slavery or involuntary servitude” who are born in the United States to be citizens.

Sounds pretty fundamental to me.

Umbra ,

More Like utterly irrelevant for over 150 years

spaceghoti OP ,

The principle, enshrined into law in 1866, has granted citizenship to countless people for over two hundred years. How do you get “irrelevant” from that?

Umbra ,

That's not what its purpose was.

spaceghoti OP ,

Several hundred years of legal precedent disagree with you. Please tell me, since you know better: what was its “true” purpose?

Umbra ,

Its purpose was to grant former slaves citizenship.

BraveSirZaphod ,
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So weird they forgot to add in a "born in the United States before 1865" clause if that's what they meant. What a bunch of dummies!

spaceghoti OP ,

It can’t possibly have had more than one purpose? Especially given the broad language used that explicitly covered all people born here?

This is a truly extraordinary insight. Who knows how many judges have been ruling incorrectly, and here you come clarifying it for us all! Truly, you are a gift to us all.

TheKingBee ,
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Yeah that broad language didn’t cover native Americans…

I’m not saying it’s irrelevant like they’re arguing but it’s not as fundamental as your arguing either…

America has broadly worded laws like this not because we’re progressive but because our founders were so fundamentally racist that they literally didn’t think about brown people or women as people and so these laws would never apply to them…

www.loc.gov/item/today-in-history/june-02/

spaceghoti OP ,

The fact that it’s been enforced selectively doesn’t invalidate it. It just means there’s room (and reason!) to improve.

TheKingBee ,
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Not arguing that just saying that the selective enforcement kind of proves it’s not as fundamental as you’re arguing it is…

spaceghoti OP ,

Freedom of speech is also a fundamental principle of our nation, but it’s also selectively enforced. I don’t think your argument refutes mine as well as you think.

hoodatninja ,
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Pretty sure the courts decide that and, so far, they've decided it's pretty dang relevant.

TheBat ,
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Just like second amendment?

shawnshitshow , to Politics in Birthright citizenship is fundamental to “who we are as a nation.” So why do Republicans attack it?

many of my conservative coworkers and family members genuinely believe there is some conspiracy led by George Soros et. al. to bring tons of brown people across our border to have “anchor babies” and further liberalize our country.

if that is what you believe, of course ending birthright citizenship sounds like a great solution

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