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cabron_offsets , to Politics in Would a Biden impeachment help the Democrats?

The impeachment reeks of desperation and grudge.

BrianTheeBiscuiteer , to Politics in The Wisconsin plan to overturn an election

If they impeach she might have grounds to invoke her right to a speedy trial. I know this is was originally meant for criminal cases but I think the principle stands that government shouldn’t be able to string you along forever, especially when your rights are curtailed and they have zero expectations of winning the case.

captcha , to Politics in The Wisconsin plan to overturn an election

Speculations on democrat strategy should the GOP shove this down our throats?

wrath-sedan ,
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If she is impeached and convicted Dem Gov. Evers can select her replacement, which can also include Protasiewicz. If she is impeached without conviction so that she’s permanently suspended, she can resign for the same outcome. If Protasiewicz (or someone else) is appointed they will serve a 1 year rather than 10 year term, but she won 55-44 in her last statewide election.

With a Dem Gov and her 11 point advantage which would only grow if she were unfairly impeached, I think chances are still high that the Republican Legislature can only delay the inevitable, but there’s a lot still up in the air obviously.

spaceghoti OP ,

Cram it down their throats. Make it a campaign message that gets repeated every hour on the hour in the upcoming campaigns. There are more districts that are no longer Republican strongholds than people realize.

captcha ,

Bruh did you forget the whole point of gerrymandering? Its literally rigging the voting system and your plan is to just vote with gerrymandering as a rallying cry. We’d be better off rallying around abortion rights. We’d be better off just rioting. I appreciate your rage about gerrymandering but thats something only primary voters give a shit about.

There are more districts that are no longer Republican strongholds than people realize.

The GOP is sitting at almost a 2/3rds supermajority in both houses. Which and how many districts do you think we can flip?

RMiddleton , to Politics in The Wisconsin plan to overturn an election
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I felt highly agitated when I first learned of this plan but then I got more information and I calmed down a bit. From what I’ve read if this justice is removed the governor, a Democrat, would be entitled to appoint a replacement—possibly the same removed justice. Or someone else liberal & the removed justice could run again. There’s a way the Republicans could try more fuckery by the state house impeaching and the state senate refusing to hold a trial, because the state law says that an impeached official is barred from serving until the trial results in removal or acquittal. So GOP could try to say that once impeached the justice cannot serve, but delay the trial in the senate to avoid the governor appointing a replacement. Sigh this is so long! So anyway that’s a very narrow route to guaranteeing they get the result they want & obviously it bumps up against the article excerpts above, that voters would be angered and some GOP legislators are in unsafe districts. And finally if they did do that convoluted process to sideline a justice but delay the governor being able to appoint a successor I think the governor could very well rightfully interpret the situation as a vacancy on the court and appoint anyway. Which would of course probably go to court!

Phew.

I think all factors considered the situation in Wisconsin is not completely bleak.

Now the US Supreme Court, on the other hand, is a horrific tragedy.

assassinatedbyCIA ,

And finally if they did do that convoluted process to sideline a justice but delay the governor being able to appoint a successor I think the governor could very well rightfully interpret the situation as a vacancy on the court and appoint anyway.

That would require a democrat to actually do something other that stand around an insist on the importance of decorum. It won’t happen.

wrath-sedan ,
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I’m the case of impeachment with no trial to permanently suspend Protasiewicz she also has the option to resign, which will allow Gov. Evers to choose a replacement… which can include Protasiewicz. This however would mean instead of serving her current 10 year term she would only serve 1, and while not ideal she clearly won her election by double digits and being unfairly impeached would probably just make her more popular.

reverendsteveii ,

The fact that they repeatedly use the word trial here would normally present an interesting legal conundrum, as the impeached judge would have a constitutional right to a fair and speedy trial. Unfortunately the supreme court would likely end up ruling on what that means, and they’re openly and blatantly corrupt so I don’t expect their ruling to have anything to do with either the facts or the law.

kgbbot , to Politics in The Wisconsin plan to overturn an election

Everything about the impeachment plan is definitely a complete violation of each elected politician’s oath of officer and attempting to subvert the will of the voters should lead to every single representative who is endorsing this plan being permanently removed from office.

ForestOrca , to Politics in The Wisconsin plan to overturn an election
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The Wisconsin GOP plan to overturn an election - FTFY. A lot of Wisconsonites are avidly, actively against this, it's just that gerrymandering has diluted their vote.

blanketswithsmallpox ,

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. - JFK

badbytes , to Politics in The Wisconsin plan to overturn an election

The GOP hates democracy, at its fundamental core. These days, the group stands for an authoritarian regime. They should all just move to North Korea.

david , (edited )

Or Russia. Trump admires Putin after all, and Putin would welcome them with open arms. He’s needing more troops for the front lines in Ukraine.

TokenBoomer , to Politics in The Wisconsin plan to overturn an election

The decline of America is ridiculously funny, if you don’t live there.

schwim ,
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Some of us 'Muricans find plenty of humor in it as well.

jordanlund , to Politics in Judge schedules Trump federal election plot trial for crowded March 2024
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It’s also possible that Sidney Powell will also be on/around the same date as the Chesebro trial, she has also invoked the speedy trial clause.

HoustonHenry , to Politics in Judge schedules Trump federal election plot trial for crowded March 2024

Trump, please do what you do best, and get that trial date moved up!

lobut , to Politics in Will new Clarence Thomas revelations bring Supreme Court changes?

Uncle Thomas?

Mikey_donuts , to Politics in Will new Clarence Thomas revelations bring Supreme Court changes?

Short answer: no.

Long answer: noooooooooooooooooooooooo.

ivanafterall , to Politics in Will new Clarence Thomas revelations bring Supreme Court changes?

In case you were also wondering:

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idoubtit , to Politics in Will new Clarence Thomas revelations bring Supreme Court changes?
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I hope the change is that he is harassed constantly and his donors suffer for their behavior. I want to keep talking about it forever so his reputation is trashed forever.

JamesBean , to Politics in Will new Clarence Thomas revelations bring Supreme Court changes?
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*Betteridge's Law

spaceghoti OP ,

Thank you. Updated.

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