The1Morrigan ,

Now if only there was an alternative that had nothing to do with Facebook.

adonis ,
@adonis@kbin.social avatar

oh.. wait..

One_Dollar_Payout ,

There is Mastodon. You just have to get used to it.

Machinist3359 ,

Mastodon: it's harder to find your friends, but you get to keep them.

spammedevito ,

I agree, but I try to be pragmatic. Everyone is looking for the twitter killer that will destroy it in a blaze of glory, but I am fine with it slowly bleeding users and value as Threads and Mastodon (and Bluesky?) get better and gains more users.

billiam0202 ,

But is Meta/Facebook gaining any better? Remember, this was the company that gladly shared information with Cambridge Analytica to affect the 2016 US elections. And they’re collecting an absolutely monstrous amount of data from each Thread user.

Hellsadvocate ,
@Hellsadvocate@kbin.social avatar

The enemy of my enemy....isn't like my best friend or anything, but I sure am cheering them on...
But in all honesty, as much as I love the idea of fediverse. I really do want a "town square" that's moderated by the community. I would love something like wt.social. or a wikipedia equivalent to Twitter.

Infiltrated_ad8271 , (edited )
@Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social avatar

I find it hard to decide who to hate less because both are so ambiguous about their future. Currently threads doesn't allow access to any of their content without signup and using their damn mobile app, while twitter allows free access from any browser.

On the other hand, twitter is recently limiting access without an account, and threads could have a browser version and federation with the fediverse.

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

As far as I know, a Threads site is coming. It only just launched so not everything is ready yet :)

Teppic OP ,
@Teppic@kbin.social avatar

I think splitting the user base between them is probably good. Ideally TV/radio will stop defaulting to "tweet us with the hashtag..." They'll have use multiple channels and that might open the door for Mastodon and the fediverse too.

I'll keep saying it, but I'd like to see another big player (Microsoft, Google etc) embrace activitypub. That would bring balance and snub EEE for Meta.

Semi-Hemi-Demigod ,
@Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

Considering the stranglehold that huge platforms have on users, it makes a lot of sense for organizations to have their own fediverse servers, with communities and access they control.

For example, a lot of governments use Twitter as a way to communicate in disaster situations. But since Elon lets anyone with a credit card have a check mark and bans people on a whim you can't trust that the account is a real one or that it won't be cut off in time of need. A Mastodon server would solve both of these problems.

Ggtfmhy ,

That’s true, but now you have to remember which server is legit. One benefit of a centralized service is that you have centralized verification, which at one time was a point in Twitter’s favor.

I’m not very well versed in cryptography, but if I understand the certification system for websites, different sites apply to a certificate provider, of which there are multiple. Maybe something like this is possible for the Fediverse? Where a user or community or instance can be “verified” by one or more trusted verification “agencies” or whatever.

Thorned_Rose ,

I wouldn't trust Microsoft as far as I could kick them with their long history of EEE

Bozicus ,

Me neither, but I think the point here is that it is better for the fediverse if there’s competition between Meta and Microsoft as well as competition between each of them and the current fediverse.

Marks ,
@Marks@kbin.social avatar

Are you not able to see this?

Infiltrated_ad8271 ,
@Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social avatar

Nope, should I? I tried firefox and brave.
Anyway, I guess this implies that there is a website nearby, as the other user says.

Marks ,
@Marks@kbin.social avatar

Interesting. I do not have a threads account and can see that post and replies.

UnshavedYak ,

Weird, i can. Firefox, Linux.

Doll_Tow_Jet-ski ,

I can't. Also Firefox and Linux. Strange indeed

Edit: Ah, I am un Europe. Nevermind

Teppic OP ,
@Teppic@kbin.social avatar

Are you in Europe? Threads is blocked in the EU...

Infiltrated_ad8271 ,
@Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social avatar

You were right, I changed my location and now I can see it.

yesdogishere ,

for the sake of humanity, pls permaban threads from using activityhub etc if it in any way uses data shared with kbin/lemmy. threads is an abominatin - it doesn't show you when people mention you in replies, and it selectively shows you things which only zuckerprick wants to show you. so posts are not even shown chronologically, threads just doesn't bother to show you all the posts.

threads is clearly a vehicle for fascist control of the population, far more than twitter ever was. pls protect kbin/lemmy from being infected or else when threads is affected by political scandals, kbin/lemmy will be affected.

WHY IS KBIN/LEMMY NOT CLARIFYING THAT FACEBOOK THREADS IS BANNED ALREADY?????

effingjoe ,

Is this satire?

exohuman ,
@exohuman@kbin.social avatar

Threads isn’t federated yet with anyone. The functionality is not there. When/if it does try to federate it will be with Mastodon instances, not kbin/Lemmy.

hypelightfly ,

Kbin does federate with Mastodon instances and supports microblogs.

fearout ,
@fearout@kbin.social avatar

Threads aren't even federated yet. There's nothing to defederate or ban.

Bozicus ,

It is apparently possible to add “threads.net” to a defederation/ban list even though there’s no actual communication yet. It gives peace of mind to people who want to drop the portcullis on all commercial interests. But in practical terms, you’re right, there’s nothing to ban.

Kara ,
@Kara@kbin.social avatar

You cannot block someone from using activitypub, that just simply is not how it works.

BraveSirZaphod ,
@BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social avatar

With all due respect, please touch grass. "For the sake of humanity"? "Zuckerprick"? "A vehicle for fascist control of the population"?

You sound like a thirteen year old.

chaogomu ,

To be fair, Facebook employs a man named Joel Kaplan as their head of Global Policy. Formerly their head of US Policy, Formerly a Bush White House Toady.

Kaplan is the reason who all the right-wing conspiracy websites pretending to be news orgs weren't banned from Facebook news feeds. He personally exempted them all from community standards and Facebook terms of service about lying and shit. He then ordered left leaning news to be scrutinized more heavily.

He's been stuffing the ranks of Facebook's middle and upper management with loyalty tested conservatives.

Kaplan also refused to make changes to the algorithm that would have helped fight hate speech, because anger and outrage drive higher engagement.

He's also ignoring at least three ongoing racial cleansings that are being actively powered by Facebook, because they're happening in countries that are not the US.

So in a way, it really is a vehicle for the fascist control of the population, or at least a fascist friendly media stream.

BedSharkPal ,

I'll take my slightly good news where I can get it. I'm begging for scraps over here!

Teppic OP ,
@Teppic@kbin.social avatar

This is perhaps not strictly RedditMigration, but it certainly discusses migration to Mastodon which is all good too!

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