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e_t_ Admin , in Polonium v0.5.2

Looking forward to v2.10

mpiepgrass , in Today I did a very sad thing
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Mandrake introduced me to it. I think I moved over from fvwm, so the difference was huge.
I stuck around until KDE4 - At which point I couldn’t get it to run for long without crashing. That and I think the Amorok guys started phoning it in. Many years of DE/WM hopping finally ended with 5.21. The wait was worth it!

troyunrau OP ,
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Nice! Mandrake was really great when it was new – Basically redhat(clone)+KDE+Mandrake Control Center. Compared to the pain of getting KDE installed on redhat (originally), it was quite a slick system. It was my third linux distro, and I rode it up until the Mandrake+Connectiva merger.

After the aforementioned redhat pains, but prior to Mandrake, I also dabbled with Caldera. This was so slick at the time: www.linuxjournal.com/article/3563 – a pity they “enshittified” before the word was coined, because that’s exactly what happened haha. It was the first distro with a graphical install process, which just seems normal now but was quite revolutionary at the time. Plus it came with KDE preconfigured.

After the connectiva merger, I moved to slackware and stayed there until I exited KDE development. It was a great development box because the systems were so minimal and just sort of stayed out of the way. At the KDE 4.0 release event, we even managed to get Patrick Volkerding to attend – which is sort of like meeting your own personal linux hero. That was fun.

Sh1nyM3t4l4ss , in What is the difference between these 2 flatpaks?

You can either install flatpaks system wide or only for your specific user.

SpaceNoodle , in What is the difference between these 2 flatpaks?

One has “(user)” in its name

FarLine99 ,

This!

carlschwan Mod , in Today I did a very sad thing

Only one way to find out, come to Akademy this Saturday in Greece 😉 totally not too short notice

troyunrau OP ,
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You joke - but I went to Akademy in Scotland in 2007 with about the same amount of notice, thanks to the KDE eV just deciding to fly me out. :)

No, I’m running a business now and cannot just abscond anymore like an undergrad :)

herzenschein Mod , in Proposal for cleaner ~/.config directory
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I answered something similar elsewhere:

If you mean migrating the files yourself, it’s just a matter of copying the file from the old place ~/.config/yourconfigrc to ~/.config/yourapp/yourconfigrc.

If you mean you want the application to manage the migration itself, that’s an implementation detail I hadn’t thought about yet, but which I assume wouldn’t be difficult to do with KConfig.

You can see this bit of code from Konsole showing how to migrate from old entries to new entries in the same config file for example: >invent.kde.org/utilities/konsole/-/…/main.cpp#L99

The implementation could probably be something similar, with two KConfig/KSharedConfigPtr instances I assume 👀 so:

  • if oldConfig exists, create an object for it
  • read all oldConfig entries
  • if it differs from newConfig, store which ones differ
  • write all different oldConfig entries in newConfig object
  • sync()

Something like that.

MartinR OP ,

Just for clarification: this would be a one-time process per application, right? I’m sure this will work for 99% of users, but there’ll always be the one (or a couple of users) that synchronizes their .config directory, then doesn’t update all machines at the same time and all hell breaks loose - a.k.a xkcd.com/1172/ :-) But I’d say that’s probably not worth losing the advantages of a cleaner .config-directory, so this might be one of those “tough-luck” situations… 🤷

herzenschein Mod ,
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I think so. I mean, the migration code would still be there afterwards, maybe removed after several versions later.

If the user syncs machines with different application versions I’m not sure there’s anything that can be done at the code level though. 👀

Thwompthwomp , in Proposal for cleaner ~/.config directory

Would this mean a copy and a paste of the config folder would bring up a new KDE system to my personalizing without going through konsave juggling?

I think that’s my biggest complaint that I don’t know how to import my desktop config (window decorations, panel layout, desktops, activities, fonts, application themes) into a new install easily or the “proper” way

zmej420blazeit ,

this is a seperate issue, and no, it wouldn’t fix the issue, maybe improve it a little though. as stated in the article, not everything would be in ~/.config/kde, and IME there are files scattered over ~/.local/share that you might also consider config you want to export.

Personally, I’ve tracked down 80-90% of the settings I care about and put them in git, but it was tedious, and some things can’t really be shared across machines, while some other things need to be cleared of machine specific information to work as a new “default base config”

MartinR OP ,

I’m not sure (not the author) and I think syncing config is a lot more difficult than it would seem at first glance. Eg Panel Layout: Imagine syncing between a multi-monitor-setup (work PC) and a single-monitor-setup (Laptop) - how’s that supposed to work? The panel might be on the second screen on the PC, but once synchronized to the Laptop, that would mean either

  • missing panel (off screen)
  • double panel (stacked on top of each other)
  • hidden second panel (one below the other)

Syncing .config would (at first glance) work best for device independent settings (e.g.: Indentation in Kate with Tabs vs. Spaces) - but even “fonts” in Kate might already not be a good idea, as a font might not be installed in both systems (and it might get worse with font-sizes, scale-factors…)

zmej420blazeit , in Proposal for cleaner ~/.config directory

i haven’t looked too deeply into it, but a lot of kde config files already have some sort of update and version data. transitioning to new locations shouldn’t be TOO difficult. I think everyone can agree it should be done. I imagine that naming and specific locations could turn into bikeshedding though.

It’s been tempting for me to use some LD_PRELOAD magic to clean things up. I’m the kind of person that keeps my home directory read-only and uses custom environment variables for particularly egregious applications.

Zeus , in Proposal for cleaner ~/.config directory
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i agree with all of this, and in fact would go a step further to say: nicer names in general. what in the nine is plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc‽ why not just plasma-appletsrc?

i think the real problem is the manpower to do it all though

Koma52 , in Is it just me or does KDE Connect only work about half the time?
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Maybe check if your phone is stopping apps that are in the background. If I’m not mistaken it’s an Android feature and most of the time you can disable it in settings per app. On my Huawei phone it’s Settings > Apps > the app > power usage > launch settings.

noodlejetski ,
PureTryOut , in Is it possible to remove text shadow on file labels on the desktop?
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I don’t think so, it’s there to make it easy to read the text no matter what background you’re using. Why do you want to remove it in the first place?

tubbadu ,

yeah I know, but on certain types of wallpapers they are not needed, so I was wondering if it was possible to remove or perhaps change the text decoration to (e.g.) outline, bold, …

Nks , in Is it possible to remove text shadow on file labels on the desktop?

Is that shadow text or just the icon for .txt?

tubbadu OP ,

the shadow text for any file on the desktop

evirac , in What does the "Files linked to the current activity" setting mean in the Location tab of Destkop Folder Settings?

You know activity? Like you can have different widgets, different wallpapers and different windows open in different activities. Like if you’ve got two activities, you can think of it as two sides of a coin.

Kalcifer OP ,

I’m not sure that I understand what you mean.

evirac ,

Ok, it’s hard to explain for me just through words. I’ll have to show through screenshots

evirac ,

But i can’t seem to upload images for some reason so never mind…

Look, when you right click on a directory in dolphin, you’ll see the option “link to activity” You can see your activities by pressing “meta + q” and cycle with “meta + tab”

then, when you link the directory through a particular activity, then when you are in that activity, you will see that particular directory on the desktop if you have selected that option “Files linked to current activity”

Nuuskis ,

Activity is almost the same as virtual desktops.

PureTryOut , in Federation bug fixed
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Oh, how weird lol. The Lemmy UX definitely doesn’t fit on Mastodon, now this “community account” as it appears on Mastodon just boosts every post made in the community, without context to the exact post it seems.

It is nice to be able to boost or favorite individual comments though!

carlschwan ,
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@PureTryOut @carlschwan Yes it's a bit weird but the other way is pretty nice, if I ping the kde community account it will create a new post on the lemmy instance and also I can reply to your lemmy post with my mastodon account :)

linuxFan , in Is it possible to cycle through virtual desktops using the mouse scrollwheel?

I was able to do it by right clicking the desktop > Configure Desktop and Wallpaper > Mouse Actions > Add Action and continue from there. This only works when you scroll on the actual desktop background, not over any windows/menus.

Kalcifer OP ,

Yeah, I’m aware of the scrolling on desktop backround feature. Unfortunately, this is not the functionality that I am looking for.

evirac ,

Well, you can scroll through the desktops if you have that virtual desktop widget on your pannel. Or have you tried making a shortcut? In gnome, it’s meta+scroll wheel so maybe give that. Try

Kalcifer OP , (edited )

Well, you can scroll through the desktops if you have that virtual desktop widget on your pannel.

I already have this.

Or have you tried making a shortcut? In gnome, it’s meta+scroll wheel so maybe give that.

Yes, I have already tried that. It’s in the description of my post.

evirac ,

Oh, sorry about that. 😂😂

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