Col3814444 OP , (edited )

Holy fuck, it’s not even mildly subtle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sun_(symbol)

Also, how dare those Nazi fucks bespoil Kate Bush’s wonderful music like that. I hope she sues the living fuck out of them.

-edit, notice also; ‘Make America Florida’. and ‘God’ superimposed over DeSantis.

Laffytaffer ,

It’s subtle only in the sense that most regular people don’t know what the black sun is. My wife got me this keychain that had some pagan symbols on it with a black sun snuck in as well, she had no idea until I told her.

be_excellent_to_each_other ,
@be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social avatar

I admit I got all the way to the end waiting for the swastika, and figured, "eh, well it must be that thing."

Thing is, while I find this entirely plausible, unless there's an archive.org of the tweet before deletion, I don't think we can credibly tie this back to anything DeSantis wanted or approved.

He's in my top 5 list of people actively trying to destroy the US, but unless the provenance of the linked video can be proven I don't see this going anywhere. Folks who hate him aren't surprised, folks who don't will ask for more proof, DeSantis will deny if he acknowledges it at all.

Jaytreeman ,

My only pushback is how much evidence do you need? He's anti-latin, anti-gay, anti-teans and uses neo-nazi imagery.
Anyone that's willing to ignore one of those because it's not explicit enough, is highly suspect.

be_excellent_to_each_other ,
@be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social avatar

I completely agree with you, but that still leave the minds that will be changed by this existence of this video at zero, the way I read it. Yes it's appalling, but he was appalling before the video too.

Jaytreeman ,

The people that can't have their minds changed are fascists. You should thank them for making it clear

be_excellent_to_each_other ,
@be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social avatar

Absolutely fair point I'm just saying I don't think the existence of this moves the needle in any way in the current environment. It can't even be used in a campaign smear against him without being verifiable as to its origin and his approval of it.

TL;DR: Entertaining, but not whatsoever the immediate career destroyer that it could have been, or that we all would have hoped for.

crowsby ,
@crowsby@kbin.social avatar

The NYT is reporting that it was actually produced by the DeSantis campaign, which is doing nothing to disavow the notion.

p03locke ,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Wow, using Kate Bush’s music is ironic as hell.

Col3814444 OP ,

Song about a man and a woman changing bodies, no less.

p03locke ,
@p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Fortunate Son isn’t a national anthem to use political campaigning, either, but Trump and other dumbasses use it, anyway.

nicetriangle ,
@nicetriangle@kbin.social avatar

Yeah my first thought as well

falsem , (edited )

I don't like the guy either but this is shitty source. "Some guy on twitter said a thing happened but you can't see it verified anywhere else now!"

dulce_3t_decorum_3st ,
@dulce_3t_decorum_3st@lemmy.world avatar

Except the actual video is widely available.

NoIWontPickaName ,

Link?

I'm lazy and uninformed, I'd like to be neither, but 1 is better than none.

Arotrios ,
@Arotrios@kbin.social avatar

From the article - be warned, it's a TwitX link.

Unaware7013 ,

Wow, even discounting the blatant Nazi imagery, that was absolutely terrible

Arotrios ,
@Arotrios@kbin.social avatar

Yeah. I sincerely hope Kate Bush's lawyers get a copy.

JonEFive ,

Honesty award

falsem ,

The claim is that someone from his staff shared it on an official Twitter account, which is unverifiable. Unless you know some way to view deleted tweets that I'm not aware of.

HandsHurtLoL ,

I saw your report and did not act on it because this site ranks with an acceptable reliability score from the media bias chart we use.

As moderators, we cannot ascertain the veracity of individual stories from white listed sources. You can use the link in the side bar to check the reliability rating of any source before reporting it; we only remove items ranking below a 32 reliability score.

falsem ,

Perhaps that threshold is too low then if this is what a "34" is.

HandsHurtLoL ,

You operate here on a voluntary basis.

JonEFive ,

Susinct and savage. I like it.

For what it's worth, I think the community is doing just fine at pointing out that a direct link to DeSantis isn't presently verifiable, and it is creating reasonable discussion.

falsem ,

Are you threatening me? Go ahead and ban me if this is how you want to run things. I meant it as feedback on the rules, if you can't take feedback on that please ban me.

Drusas ,

The comment was not meant to be a threat but a statement of fact--you are welcome to participate or not.

Our rules, in fact, are entirely based on community feedback. Before implementing them, we had multiple discussions on what the users of the magazine wanted to see. We will also be reviewing the rules at a later date, so that people can share feedback on what they have liked and what they would like to see changed. However, we've had rules for something like two weeks at this point, so it's a little soon for that. You would be perfectly welcome to create a meta discussion on the topic. If one of the rules turns out to need addressing promptly, I'm sure we can do so, and that will also be based on community feedback.

Finally, no, we don't ban people just because they get angry about something and/or ask to be banned.

crowsby ,
@crowsby@kbin.social avatar

How about the New York Times, and it turns out it wasn't just shared by the DeSantis campaign, but produced by it and then sent to an "outside supporter" to actually tweet, so they could maintain plausible deniability.

One recent move that drew intense blowback, including from Republicans, was the campaign’s sharing of a bizarre video on Twitter that attacked Mr. Trump as too friendly to L.G.B.T.Q. people and showed Mr. DeSantis with lasers coming out of his eyes. The video drew a range of denunciations, with some calling it homophobic and others homoerotic before it was deleted.

But it turns out to be more of a self-inflicted wound than was previously known: A DeSantis campaign aide had originally produced the video internally, passing it off to an outside supporter to post it first and making it appear as if it was generated independently, according to a person with knowledge of the incident.

TokenBoomer ,

That staffer wants a promotion

spaduf ,
@spaduf@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Interesting story but I’m a little unnerved that the website says “APOCALYPSE SOON” at the top.

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