johannes ,

TBH, i never seem to like anything thats made after Voyager or Nemesis. And i understand it, the new movies and new series are made for a different (broader) audience, so it needs splendor and lots of shooting, but to me thats not what Star Trek was about.

Ive always hoped they’d make a serie with the USS Prometheus, but alas! I’ll just keep rewatching Voyager and DS9 untill i die, i guess.

c10l ,

Strange New Worlds has been quite good tbh.

Picard has its moments as well. It’s more valuable as a TNG revival than as a whole new ST work but it’s not bad, especially the last season.

Discovery is one of the worst sci-fi ever produced though, so definitely stay away from it.

graded6827 ,

Glad to see someone else hating on discovery, on the Star Trek subreddit everyone’s obsessed with it and I thought it was hot garbage

accideath ,

I‘d say Discovery has its moments (aka those including Jason Isaacs or Anson Mount) but yea, the Series as a whole is rather bad with an annoying as fuck main character…

themoken ,

All of the arguments I see for Discovery are based on representation and that’s literally the only thing the show got right. It’s like yeah, it’s great to have a diverse cast… I just wish they were on screen doing something good. Trek lives and dies in the writing, all the acting, effects, and out of universe concerns won’t save it from absolutely horrendous writing.

If they’d have done SNW style plots with DSC cast, it would have been amazing from the beginning.

cygnathreadbare ,
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@c10l @johannes idk, Picard S3 ends the same way as Prodigy S1, and Prodigy does it better IMO.

Discovery started well and got boring by always doing the "galaxy ending thing only us have detected and can solve (something picard does too, but not as many times in a row at least).

bababooey ,

Will skip this if it gets made. All good things for Picard really came to an end after that episode.

themoken ,

This is First Contact erasure and I won’t stand for it.

simonzerafa ,
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@themoken @bababooey

Unless this new movie is frankly outstanding it won't beat First Contact.

I do wish Paramount would concentrate on a Captain Seven series though 🙄🖖

themoken ,

Agreed wholeheartedly.

As some have mentioned, this could be a/another backdoor pilot for Legacy where Seven more or less takes the torch from Picard, similar to Picard taking it from Kirk in Generations - although that was obviously after TNG instead of before.

dangblingus ,

I gave up watching Picard at the end of Season 1 after

spoilerthey kill Picard and replace him with an android.

If it’s not actually Jean-Luc, I’m not interested. And I’m definitely not interested in returning to Picard’s universe with all of those boring ass characters if it means that they’ll do another time-travel plotline to save his life. Yawn.

graded6827 ,

Season 1 and 2 sucked ass, but season 3 is actually pretty great and you can watch it as a stand alone without really needing to watch the previous 2 seasons.

shartedchocolate ,

Season 1 was such absolute dog shit. The orbital defense flowers, “JL” etc… but yeah, S3 feels like Kurtzman got kicked in the sack and someone else made Picard. I recommend watching S3 and forgetting the other two were ever made.

Also in S1 Jean Luc Picard picked a bar fight. The person that had his dick dragged through a mile of broken glass getting killed by a Nossican over and over in a bar fight, went to pick a bar fight. What was that show?

Anticorp ,

I strongly disagree. It had promise, but was ultimately very stupid. The entire show uses “Borg” as an excuse to explain away ridiculous concepts that are far-fetched and more akin to magic than technology.

xilliah ,
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I tried but it feels so shallow.

PrettyFlyForAFatGuy ,

season three was passable at best. people only say it was good because the first two were so unbelievably dogshit

Anticorp ,

Picard had a lot of promise, and they almost got it, but overall it was trash IMO. More Star Wars and hand waiving than Trek. It was a beautifully made universe, the SFX were superb, but they seemed to spent all their time and money on that, and none on dialogue or character consistency. Picard is nothing of his former self. He spends three seasons whining and complaining rather than commanding. The writers invent a traumatic backstory for him, depicting his authoritative personality as a character flaw as a result of trauma, rather than a strength of character. I rather disliked what they did to him.

nova_ad_vitum ,

Season 2 was arguably worse.

Rom ,
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Please just fucking retire TNG already. It’s time to move on. Give us that Seven show with a gay captain. I’d watch the hell out of that.

Corgana ,
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My instinct is to agree with you but I also felt the same way when they announced Star Trek VI and that’s the best Trek film of all time.

skellener ,
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Absolutely!

SteleTrovilo ,

I have two reasons to not write this off:

  1. Picard S2 would have been just fine as a 2-or-3-part episode, and not a 10-episode full season.
  2. The first 4 episodes of Picard S3, watched together by themselves, become the second-best TNG movie (after First Contact of course).

If they were announcing Picard season 4 I’d just groan and ignore it. But I think the cast and crew could actually pull off a decent 1.5-2 hours of good entertainment.

simonzerafa ,
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@SteleTrovilo @USSBurritoTruck

We really need the follow Captain Seven series. Episodic in a similar way to Strange New Worlds with the option for longer story arcs where needed 🙂🤷‍♂️

SteleTrovilo ,

We basically need more Jeri Ryan, in any context. And “Crash” LaForge should be there, she was fun too. Just definitely don’t use the same writers from PIC.

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