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breakfastburrito , in Berkeley Vote Spreads Psychedelic Decriminalization in the Bay Area

The article says there’s been no police activity since decriminalization in Oakland, but there was a big bust a few years ago. They raided a grow operation and took all their money and equipment, rendering it useless. I think they didn’t make any charges or arrests? so still better than jail time!

California still criminalizes the sale of mushroom spores, making growing your own more difficult. It’s been interesting and convenient to be able to buy a menu of shroom products from organizations and churches around town. I hope it gets more popular and less expensive.

Dankenstein ,

From the resolution that was adopted:

De-Prioritizing the enforcement of laws imposing criminal penalties for Entheogenic/Psychedelic plants and fungi for personal use

Still illegal to mass produce for distribution.

Sucks but I’d rather be able to grow my own and not run afoul of the law than just be a criminal all the time.

Powderhorn Mod ,
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I’m left to wonder the extent to which lawmakers understand how fungi work. One MSS can yield mass production given sufficient other supplies without intending to cross the line into mass production.

drwho ,
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That seems like a feature, not a bug. Unintentional mass production makes an ideal pretext for a raid and filing charges.

Dankenstein ,

They probably don’t understand a whole lot, my head cannon has them at the meeting saying “adults may grow one to three mushrooms per person per household” lmfao

Powderhorn Mod ,
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“Mushrooms are all the same size, right?”

PotentiallyAnApricot , in AAA pulls back from offering insurance in Florida, following Farmers

This sucks. A similar thing seems to be happening in California because of the wildfires. I heard someone on a podcast recently say that it’s like “the market” is responding to climate change before governments do. Which sucks, because it’s haphazard and profit driven, so the least responsible and least protected people will likely be hit the hardest.

(Edit: don’t see how this has anything to do with desantis or his policies? Am i missing something?)

snowbell ,
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Yeah I think it is just people hating on floridians because bad politics man bad and so the people there supposedly deserve any bad thing that happens?

PotentiallyAnApricot ,

Weird take.

StringTheory , in US soldier believed to be detained by North Korea after 'willfully' crossing border

“I’m free! I’m free! Can’t get me now, suckaaaas! I’m so smart!”

<crosses DMZ>

“Ohhhhhh… shhhiiiiiiiiii….”

ATQ , in US soldier believed to be detained by North Korea after 'willfully' crossing border

Corporate needs you to find the difference between North Korea and jail…?

JCPhoenix OP ,
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He just got confused on where the jail was. Happens to the best of us. Poor guy.

SugarApplePie , in A Spelling Mistake Is Causing Thousands of Sensitive Pentagon Documents to Be Leaked to a Russian Ally
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Emails sent from the .MIL domain to the .ML addresses “are blocked before they leave the .mil domain and the sender is notified that they must validate the email addresses of the intended recipients," Gorman said.

So they aren’t actually making it to the .ml addresses? I can’t tell if I’m not understanding something properly or someone is lying or what

middlemuddle ,

That’s only for emails sent from the .mil domain. Emails sent from other domains don’t have the same filters in place. The issue is that plenty of other domains are attempting to send emails to the .mil domain and are actually sending to the .ml domain. The article only confirms a filter is in place for .mil users, so it’s entirely possible that .gov users have no such filter. Plenty of government workers with .gov domains would be trying to send sensitive info to .mil users. Or government contractors, who would have a whole bunch of possible domains, would be trying to send to the .mil domain and failing.

It’s a pretty big, and stupid, breach, but I’m not sure how you get everyone who’s not part of your closed system to ensure they’re typing out .mil correctly.

jarfil ,
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What I don’t get, is why would anyone send any sensitive info unencrypted.

middlemuddle ,

That wouldn’t really make a difference here, I don’t think. A standard encrypted email just ensures that only the intended recipient can open it. Since the addressed recipients were the .ml domain, the emails would still be accessible by the wrong people.

jarfil ,
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Email encryption is kind of broken, but kind of in a good way: if you don’t have the recipient’s key, then you can’t send an encrypted email. Since there would be no reason for senders of sensitive info intended for .mil receivers, to have the key for an equivalent receiver at a .ml domain, the emails would just fail to send, stopping any leak before it happened.

TheOakTree , in A Spelling Mistake Is Causing Thousands of Sensitive Pentagon Documents to Be Leaked to a Russian Ally

lemmy.mil when?

Gork , in A Spelling Mistake Is Causing Thousands of Sensitive Pentagon Documents to Be Leaked to a Russian Ally
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So… when will there be PowerPoints and training that will now be required as a result of this incident? Now DoD employees will have to sit through yet another hour-long presentation about how to not make spelling mistakes lol.

elfpie ,

The fact treason is as easy as a spelling mistake is worrisome. Don’t trust users not to shoot themselves in the foot.

megopie ,

“ So if you remember this contrived acronym , you won’t accidentally write e-mali instead of e-mail”

dax , in AAA pulls back from offering insurance in Florida, following Farmers

My natural inclination is toward black gallows humor in situations like these, but I have to keep reminding myself that a lot of people are going to get harmed and laughing is an unacceptable faux pas.

I also have to remind myself that “not knowing what to do with all these feels” may result in unhelpful reactions.

Yet I still want to stand on DeSantis’ head and shout “what the hell did you damn well expect you fucking troglodyte”. Feelings are tricky.

OneStepAhead ,

They (collectively) voted him into office. A lot of people are going to be hurt, but then again most people don’t vote at all.

pixel ,
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4.6 million people voted for desantis, and 21 million people live in Florida. Less than a quarter of the people that live in the state voted him into office. It is deeply unfair to say “a lot of people voted him into office” because it ignores the people that are affected by this decision and either voted against it, can’t do anything about it, or just didn’t. I know you said most people don’t vote at all but Florida isn’t a monolith and it’s really important to remember that when things like this negatively affect millions of people that either didn’t want this to happen or had no say.

steltek ,

At some point, people need to take responsibility for their government. DeSantis won by 19 points with >50% turnout. That’s pretty convincing to me. Florida is no longer a swing state. GOPers moved their in droves because of DeSantis’ politics.

pixel ,
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Sure, to an extent, but that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t also be empathetic to those of whom who are adversely affected by this and didn’t really have a say in the matter – kids are an example I brought up in another comment, but all of the victims of voter suppression as well. Florida should be responsible for platforming desantis but that doesn’t mean that florida deserves desantis.

Clegko ,

By these people not voting, we assume that they are OK with how things are going in their state. In which case, they asked for it.

cadeje ,
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You realise voter suppression is a thing right? It’s unfair to say these people asked for it. It’s also unfair to everyone stuck there and too poor to leave, or don’t want to leave because it’s their home.

JaeSuis ,
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“They said nothing, therefore they asked for it” isn’t a great opinion, friend.

pixel ,
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You know kids are adversely affected by desantis’s policy and cannot vote, right? just as a single example.

Clegko ,

Theres only ~5 million kids in Florida - that still leaves about 16 million people who are eligible to vote who didn’t.

pixel ,
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1.4 million in florida have felony convictions, and a disproportionate number are minorities in florida. Then 1.8 million non-citizen immigrants in Florida, from Mexico or Cuba or other places in the Carribean. And that’s not including the people that didn’t vote because of local efforts of voter suppression, which is a nebulous number but still statistically significant.

eladnarra ,

The 21 million includes everyone, not just registered voters. Until 2015, I couldn’t vote because I wasn’t a citizen. Still had to live with the shitty policies that Floridian politicians passed into law.

alyaza OP Mod ,
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By these people not voting, we assume that they are OK with how things are going in their state. In which case, they asked for it.

people have already chimed in but, as just one example of how not-clearcut this is: Florida essentially refused to implement a policy which was democratically passed that enfranchised felons. Florida has over 1 million felons, a disproportionate number of whom are black and would otherwise likely vote Democratic. when they finally had to implement the policy, they made it much harder for felons to be re-enfranchised (against the will of voters)—such that in practice, the state maintains a ban on voting while being a felon which disproportionately impacts Democratic voters. you cannot seriously blame people for the situation the state is in, except in a very abstract sense.

argv_minus_one ,

Unless I’m mistaken, the vast majority of the people who own houses, and therefore stand to lose them, are middle-class white people with no criminal record, not black people or felons.

alyaza OP Mod ,
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i have absolutely no idea what point you’re trying to raise here when the context of the conversation is whether the people of Florida, collectively, deserve to suffer for voting in the wrong guy when:

  1. the vast majority of them explicitly didn’t vote for the guy, and;
  2. large—and literally decisive—numbers of them were legally disenfranchised from voting against the guy and continue to be disenfranchised under Florida law. DeSantis won the gubernatorial election in 2018 by approximately 32,000 votes against a million felons, many of whom are Black.
argv_minus_one ,

My argument is that the people who now stand to lose their homes are not the same people who have been disenfranchised.

Black felons did not vote for DeSantis, but the wealthy white law-abiding homeowners who are now losing their homes did vote for DeSantis, unless I’m mistaken.

alyaza OP Mod ,
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My argument is that the people who now stand to lose their homes are not the same people who have been disenfranchised.

then that’s a fundamentally incorrect understanding of the situation and of how class and race disparities are going to play out during the climate crisis. white, middle-class homeowners aren’t going to lose their homes—and if they do they’re just going to move because they have the capital to do that even at a loss. the people who are going to lose their homes, or who will be stuck in their position even if they need to leave will overwhelmingly be Florida’s working poor and minority groups. this has been the story of every natural disaster in that part of the country. take, for example, Hurricane Harvey:

Among black Texans impacted by the storm, 60 percent say they are not getting the help they need. That compares to 40 percent of Hispanic respondents and 33 percent of white respondents.

Half of respondents with lower incomes say they’re not getting the help they need, compared 32 percent of people with higher incomes. The survey classified people into two income groups — those making double the poverty-level income and those making less than that threshold. Twice the poverty level is an income of $24,280 for a single person and $50,200 for a family of four.

Meanwhile, 27 percent of Hispanic respondents affected by Harvey said their previous homes remain unlivable. Twenty percent of black respondents and 11 percent of white respondents said their previous homes cannot be lived in. And 27 percent of Texans earning lower incomes say their previous homes aren’t safe, while only 9 percent of higher earners said the same thing.

JDPoZ ,

The “not voting” thing is actually a little complicated.

First off - there are many people who don’t vote. The reasons are not always simple.

Yes there are lazy asshats who would support non-ghouls and could easily do it and don’t. You can shit on them.

But they aren’t necessarily the majority.

There are numerous hurdles that on their own aren’t tough, but that overlap and stack sometimes and when added up act as a significant obstacle that many just don’t see the benefit to trying to overcome :

  • Polling places aren’t open on weekends or holidays. And there really isn’t strong protections for workers being given time to wait in long lines to vote. Many people work 40+ hrs a week at places that - although legally technically have to give you time to go vote, really have middle management types that WILL retaliate against you in a way that is technically hazy enough that any sort of legal consequence for them doing so isn’t worth pursuing if you are barely getting by and making poverty-line income.
  • The Rs close polling stations ANYWHERE near poorer areas they can. That’s why places like Houston have like ONE polling station for a county with literal millions of voters. They know no one wants to stand for 4 hours in line in 105F Texas heat just to drop a ballot in a box that they also think won’t win because of how often the Rs like Cruz, Abbott, etc. keep winning or just holding on to their seats.
  • Democratic officials voluntarily water down their own legislation in a stupid attempt to “reach out” and seek middle ground, which only lessens the motivation for voters… like instead of “we’re going to wipe out all medical debt” you get stuff like “we’re going to allow voters to go to a website (that barely functions) and they can fill out a 12 page form that will allow them to apply for a 1-time partial percentage-based rebate that changes depending on your income and insurance information for the past 3 years.”

All this shit adds up to only make people feel discouraged or that their vote wouldn’t matter anyway, or that there’s nothing really to show up to fight for.

Yes that sucks, yes people should understand that by not showing up, they then FORFEIT various EXISTING rights like the right to an abortion… but that’s not how people think. People show up for a REWARD… not to defend what they already have but don’t know what they might lose.

Like - here’s my favorite way to help people better understand this because I get into arguments all the time about that last point :

In the US, people show up for Black Friday sales, because the reward they imagine they’ll get is a motivating factor. Now imagine if instead of getting a shitty 65" TV for 75% off, Best Buy said “come in on Black Friday and fill out a form to protect your right to get a refund within 90 days when products are defective.”

No one would show up. And when Best Buy then decided because no one showed up to fill out the form to now no longer allow refunds, suddenly would a bunch of assholes saying “TOLD YOU TO SIGN UP FOR THE BEST BUY PROTECT YOUR PURCHASES FORM! SUCKS TO SUCK LOLOLOL!” be in the right? Yeah… I guess… but - again - showing up en masse to do something that protects a possible loss isn’t how people generally think when making decisions to do or not do something that asks them to inconvenience themselves.

argv_minus_one ,

Yes that sucks, yes people should understand that by not showing up, they then FORFEIT various EXISTING rights like the right to an abortion… but that’s not how people think. People show up for a REWARD… not to defend what they already have but don’t know what they might lose.

Then I find it difficult to feel sorry for their losses. The history books are filled with people losing rights that they refused to defend, and we’re all taught the contents of those history books in school. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance, and no one born in America has any excuse for not realizing this.

MJBrune , in California and manufacturers strike deal over zero-emission trucks

The back sliding begins

gk99 , in US heatwave: A third of Americans under extreme heat advisories

Didn’t some red state governor just make it illegal for construction workers to have required rest-and-water breaks? Bad timing…

Great timing, actually. What better way to invoke change than let people get affected by the consequences of their actions?

misguidedfunk , in US heatwave: A third of Americans under extreme heat advisories

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  • misguidedfunk , in US heatwave: A third of Americans under extreme heat advisories

    Didn’t Texas just say that workers don’t have to be given water breaks?

    soiling ,
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    sure did. however, that law technically doesn’t take effect until Sep 1. however, it seems some employers are already taking advantage of it to harm and kill their employees. also important to note that the temperature in much of Texas can still be well above 90F through the end of October, so Sep 1 is not a meaningful date WRT working through the summer - there will likely be many 100F+ days after this law officially begins.

    texastribune.org/…/texas-houston-worker-protest-w…

    BlueNine , in Biden administration announces $39 billion in student debt relief following administrative fixes

    My friends from HS and I are all still very close and hang out a few times a year. For the most part we are all doing quite well career and financial wise. The exception is my good friend who studied to be a music teacher. He is brilliant and hard working, but has had to hustle twice as hard as I have for half as much.

    For 20 yrs he has been paying on his loans for undergrad and a masters degree. He has had to take jobs in every corner of the country to try and get established. I saw him a few weeks ago and he announced that thanks to Uncle Joe, he was now student debt free.

    My wife and I might grumble a little when we start writing checks again in a few months but I feel a lot better knowing that more support is going out to those who truly need it.

    Cylinsier , in Biden administration announces $39 billion in student debt relief following administrative fixes
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    People are still going to bitch about this administration not doing enough for student debt relief, and that’s understandable considering how long it’s been a problem and how little effort has gone into fixing it up until now. But just remember which party is trying to do something about it now and which party built the current SCOTUS that has blocked those efforts so far. Democrats’ track record is far from admirable, but the GOP is flat out telling you to your face that you will get nothing you want or need and you will like it when they are in power.

    Besides that, consider that Republican policy in general is about obstruction, regressive judicial interpretation, and brazen inaction on social issues. As such it is possible for Republicans to achieve a lot of their agenda by just holding one branch of Congress or having just the Presidency and courts without Congress. Because they achieve most of what they want via state legislatures suing to get their activist judges to rewrite the law through legal precedent. Contrastingly Democratic policy is often about taking action to address things which requires both Houses of Congress and the Presidency to have a chance at success, particularly with the current courts making litigation as remedy a non-starter for them.

    Knowing that, look at the makeup of our federal government over the last 30 or so years. You will see that Democrats had about 3 months of true supermajority under Obama (72 working days to be exact) and the rest of that term with a strong majority, and then two years of a split Senate for Biden’s first term with DINO Manchin and turncoat Sinema being part of that Democratic split. So we, the voters, have given Democrats two years out of the last 30 to actually have a chance to install an agenda. Just two. And those two years ended over 12 years ago.

    If you want student loan forgiveness along with other things like abortion protections, voting rights protections, climate change action, and so on, you’re not going to get it overnight with Democrats. It’s going to be an uphill battle, it’s going to take participation in primaries to get DINOsaurs replaced with younger progressives who actually have a stake in these things, and it’s probably going to take a few consecutive cycles of sustained federal control. You will not get easy and satisfying victories with just one or two votes. But I can absolutely 100% guarantee you that for every second you let Republicans control even a single branch of government, even just one chamber of Congress, you will get NOTHING on any of those topics and in fact, those situations will be made actively and maliciously worse out of pure spite. And the following Democratic administration will be that much more behind the curve and it will require that much more time and effort just to get back to zero and to even begin addressing those issues in a meaningful way.

    snowbell ,
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    I just wish they would stop trying to ban stuff.

    I normally hold my nose and vote for them, and most recently it has cost me my favorite cigars and pipe tobacco, being able to order vape stuff online, and my 3D printed gun hobby. I’ve been signed up for multiple financial services without my consent (might have to do with being a government worker idk), taking money from my paychecks until I can cancel them since most of the benefits of I’m not even eligible for and already have my own preferred versions of them set up.

    I’m forced into a corrupted bottle recycling scam that forces me to store cans and then drive them to a recycling facility and stand in line for hours, instead of just putting them into the recycling can right outside my front door. The system is set up with a perverse incentive to make recycling as hard as they can get away with. I’m gonna get angry if I keep trying to think of more ways they fucked me over, but I’m sure there is more.

    Edit: Oh yeah, the requirement for paper bags and having to pay for them even though paper bags are worse for the environment. I have my own reusable bag but when I forget it the paper bags tend to break on me. A rent control law with an absurdly high limit on the raises that both guarentees landlords will raise the price every year AND people will still be priced out of their homes anyway.

    At this point you might be able to guess where I live. For all of that I got nothing of meaningful benefit. I really don’t know if I’m going to be able to do it next time.

    Omegamanthethird ,

    I wouldn’t blame you for voting for a liberal Republican for state elections if you live in a very blue state. I don’t know if those exist. But if they do, so be it. I’m all for holding individuals accountable. And hard blue/red states can get very lazy about accountability.

    But any candidate that doesn’t respect basic human rights can fuck right off. And I don’t know of a single Republican on the national stage that passes the smell test.

    Zoop , in An otter in Santa Cruz is hassling surfers — and stealing their boards

    Aww. Good luck, silly little otter!

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