Midnitte ,

Astounding to me that the Speaker of the House called a trial by a jury of Trump's peers a "political stunt".

It's the rule of law, asshat.

Gsus4 ,
@Gsus4@mander.xyz avatar

Happy cake day! (and lock him up day)

SharkEatingBreakfast ,
@SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz avatar

If felons can't vote, they also shouldn't be able to run for office.

Fuck 'em up!

Drusas ,

I understand the sentiment, but it is important for felons to be allowed to run for office. I would also say that the vast majority of them should be allowed to vote as well (I would only take that away in cases which involve acts against democracy, election interference, etc--which, incidentally, this was).

Sometimes the law is wrong. How many people are felons because they smoked pot, for example?

SharkEatingBreakfast ,
@SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz avatar

For the record, I support allowing felons to vote.

But maybe not this one.

Gsus4 ,
@Gsus4@mander.xyz avatar

Meh...the felon population is not supposed to be large enough to influence elections...looks up incarcerated numbers...Louisiana/Oklahoma/Mississipi: nearly 1%...ok...new voting group: the incarcerated...but...who wants to fight for that vote?

TwiddleTwaddle ,

^ absolute shit take

Gsus4 ,
@Gsus4@mander.xyz avatar

why?

The_Che_Banana ,
@The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org avatar

because once you take the right away from a group, somehow laws are written and enforced to make targeted population into that group. Look at drug laws. Oh, you have 2 Marijuana cigarettes? 20 years and no vote for you drug kingpen.

Gsus4 ,
@Gsus4@mander.xyz avatar

Wait, the rates of incarceration in Louisiana are because of pot? Yeah, that's fucked up.

newtraditionalists ,

I am truly flabbergasted in the best way. Today is a good day.

Drusas ,

I was so sure it was going to be a hung jury.

zhunk ,

We've been trained to keep our expectations so, so low

Kwakigra ,
@Kwakigra@beehaw.org avatar

From CNBC:

The charges against Trump are Class E felonies, the least serious category under New York law. Each count carries a maximum sentence of four years in prison.

Experts tend to think it is highly unlikely that Trump will face any jail time as a result of the hush money verdict.
“I’d be shocked” if Trump is sentenced to jail, Bachner said. He added that a sentence of probation would be normal for the average defendant convicted of the same crime.
[Judge] Merchan has made clear throughout the trial that he is mindful of Trump’s unique political status, and he has previously expressed reluctance to put the ex-president behind bars.

Gershman told CNBC that a jail sentence is “certainly plausible,” and that it “would not be out of bounds” for Merchan to sentence Trump to some time behind bars.
But he acknowledged that, due to the immense and complex challenges of incarcerating a former president, the judge might instead opt for a sentence of house arrest.
“This case goes to the heart of our democracy, according to the judge,” Gershman said. “He views this case as very, very serious.”

e_t_ Admin ,

Let the lord of the MAGA horde come forth that justice may be done upon him.

JimmyBigSausage ,

34 times guilty

ringwraithfish ,

12 people found him guilty 34 times. 408 times guilty!

ptz ,
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

That's the kind of maths I like 😆

UNIX84 OP ,

Sentencing scheduled for July 11.

JaymesRS ,
@JaymesRS@literature.cafe avatar

This has an interesting potential given that the RNC Convention will be in Milwaukee, WI July 15, 2024.

Talaraine ,

They'll appeal. This guy won't be in jail for the election.

JaymesRS ,
@JaymesRS@literature.cafe avatar

Not sure what that has to do with the potential for shenanigans given the public news of a sentencing date being 4 days before the nominating convention, but ok.

Drusas ,

An appeal will take months. It won't be handled before July.

I_am_10_squirrels ,

Doubtful this would get jail time anyways

zhunk ,

Milwaukeeans were already not going to be happy to deal with these people. If the event gets extra putschy now... uff da.

t3rmit3 ,

FUCK YES.

Good job, jurors. Now it's up to the courts and justice system to actually do something about it.

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