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krayj ,

This might be an insightful post if it weren’t so hilariously poorly timed.

From JUST a couple weeks ago: McDonald’s employee to face murder charge after shooting NC woman inside restaurant, police say

vid: www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7pkY5Ytr5c

Bonehead ,

To be fair, the employee was fired.

TheOneCurly ,
@TheOneCurly@lemmy.theonecurly.page avatar

Should just transfer them to another one in the next town over after a paid 3 month leave.

krayj ,

Sure, and that’s great…but the topic is ‘de-escalation skills’. I’m just pointing out the obvious irony.

dustyData ,

Low reading comprehension skills, eh? The point is not the de-escalation skills. The point is that cops don’t have to face consequences for murder.

krayj ,

Low reading comprehension skills, eh?

…says the person who lacks the skills needed to read the title of the original post.

abysmalpoptart ,

In the post, someone replied that they get fired if they don’t deescalate properly. It sounds like the person you referenced did get fired. So i think that does add up?

agent_flounder ,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

And they stand a much greater chance of going to jail.

HughJanus ,

They don’t have unions

Catoblepas ,

I wonder how many cops have shot and killed people in that time period?

I wonder if there are more McDonald’s employees than cops?

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I wonder how many of those cops faced murder charges?

PaupersSerenade ,
@PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works avatar

Or got any real disciplinary measures

GreenMario ,

Didn’t get a paid vacation for it.

WarmSoda ,

One case of a violent McDonald’s employee VS how many unnecessary violent cops?

krayj ,

I’m just pointing out the hilariously poor timing.

If you are going to claim that McDonald’s employees have superior de-escalation skills to police…the absolute worst time to try and make that claim is fresh after a McDonalds employee murders a customer and the national news is still talking about it.

agent_flounder ,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

Indeed. People fall prey to availability heuristic / bias all the time.

WarmSoda ,

lemmy.world/c/thepoliceproblem
Show me anywhere near as many examples of McDonald’s employees failing to deescalate a situation as what’s in one week of reports posted in that comm.

What you’re trying to point out is just flat out dumb, and isn’t “hilarious”.

satans_crackpipe ,

Your logical fallacy is: Cherry Picking. And probably others.

PeterPoopshit ,

Believe it or not, shooting customers is against company policy at most fast food chains.

krayj ,

So you are saying that their de-escalation skills were not better than police? I would expect it to be against company policy to shoot a customer, but we’re talking about de-escalation skills here.

BassTurd ,

I’d say that the one case you have of a fast food worker shooting someone is not the same as the plethora of cases of police shooting people. More importantly though and the true subtext of this post, is that this employee got fired, arrested, and charged with murder instead of a receiving a paid vacation and a transfer to a new McDonalds two counties over.

HughJanus ,

Believe it or not, shooting citizens unnecessarily is also against most police department policies.

deaf_fish ,

Yes, both have the same policy, but one group of people shoot citizens unnecessarily way more than the other. I wonder why that is?

HughJanus ,

Probably because only 1 group of people is charged with imprisoning people against their will.

Viking_Hippie ,

Guess what? That single incident is in no way indicative of an overall tendency. Hundreds if not thousands of cops needlessly shooting people every single year, though? THAT’S a significant data point!

boatsnhos931 ,

Sourcey horsey?

Viking_Hippie ,

I believe the lemmy community !thepoliceproblem would be a good place to start, Bart.

boatsnhos931 ,

Ma’am that’s not a source. I’m not saying I disagree, I just want to see the actual numbers

Viking_Hippie ,

First of all I’m a mister, not a ma’am. Second of all, it’s a place to start and I never claimed otherwise.

Besides, accurate data is notoriously difficult to come by for many reasons including the fact that the main people who keep track of it are the same ones who conspire to cover as much of it up as possible.

The article says roughly 3 unjustified homicides a day, but with all the cop cover ups it could be several times that, so “hundreds if not thousands every year” is about as accurate an estimation of the number of needless shootings as you’re likely to get from anywhere 🤷

boatsnhos931 ,

So you are saying I should just take your word for it ma’am?

Viking_Hippie ,

I’m saying you got what you asked for and it’s clear that you’re not engaging in good faith, so you can fuck off.

boatsnhos931 ,

So… you want to get coffee or something?

SamboT ,

There was a Facebook post somewhere with the numbers and a tik tok of someone explaining why they are correct. These sources will make sense after you have enough hours of scrolling in the lemmy instance already provided to you.

With enough practice you will understand that we should just downvote and shun people who ask for sources. It saves so much time and helps to avoid understanding the world as it is.

boatsnhos931 , (edited )

A Facebook post and a TikTok video?? As a source?! I’m satisfied!!

SamboT ,

Okay good there you go.

deaf_fish , (edited )

Someone needs to tell people that it is ok not to have a source. You don’t need to downvote the person who asked for it if you don’t have it.

Shialac ,

And how many people did the cops murder in that time?

uriel238 ,
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2015 averaged four officer-involved homicides a day (an approximation based on those tracked by volunteers though news, incident reports and obituaries). That number has only increased since then. 2020 is regarded as an unusual year.

Also we learned that precinct coroners routinely cover for their brethren in blue, which may conceal considerably more slayings.

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