A shiny new blog post, hopefully helping clarify exactly what the relationship is between #openSUSE#Aeon#microOS and #Kalpa and give a bit of an update of where things are at.
Speaking officially, I would caution #Kalpa users to please keep a level head regarding the current potential issues with Global Themes and other content from store.kde.org
The vast majority of the content there is probably fine to use, but this is all user generated content, and it is on you, as the end user, to protect yourself, and verify what these themes and plasmoids do, if you wish to use them.
So at least for your humble #Kalpa developers personal workstation, the only major issue I've run into is that pam_kwallet6 is not being installed on upgrade, and has to be manually done. But there's something buggy with how it's interacting with flatpak applications. They can't seem to access the secrets stored in kwallet, that were put there by Kwallet5
#Kalpa users, you will have been upgraded to #Plasma6 in your standard overnight updates. It is recommended, that before rebooting, you create a new user, and login there on reboot, just to make sure everything is working, there are some incompatibilities between your existing Plasma5 configurations and Plasma6, particularly if you've heavily modified your plasma desktop.
#Plasma6 should be hitting #Tumbleweed in the next released Snapshot. That being said, upgrading your #Kalpa installs should technically be possible, just as it is on Tumbleweed, but it's not something that the Kalpa team is ready to "bless" as supported, until we do some testing.
Upgrade at your own risk, use a VM, do whatever it is that you normally do, when you want to try out the new and shiny.
@msdropbear42 We're in no rush to update #Kalpa to #Plasma6. Not because it's overly buggy, or that we don't want to, but we track Tumbleweed, and It hasn't hit there just yet. We appreciate the work that the #openSUSE-KDE team is putting in, getting everything together.
Will I be able to upgrade my #Kalpa installation from #plasma5 to #plasma6 in situ or will I have to reinstall?
I also can't answer that question with any real certainty. In testing, I think it's going to be possible, based on the pre-release images, but I won't know until it gets fully accepted into #Tumbleweed.
Stay tuned, I will let folks know, when I know, and can speak with any kind of authority that it's going to work.
Well, When #Tumbleweed gets it. The packages have all been submitted, and are currently going through #openQA testing and the review process for #openSUSE Factory.
So I can't tell you that. We are downstream of Tumbleweed, and Kalpa will roll Plasma6 sometime after it's accepted into Factory.
So I recently ran across this post and thread by @vwbusguy, and I would like to try to address some of the questions/misconceptions/etc that come up in the thread.
If you have questions, please, ask. What we do with #Kalpa isn't identical to what #Fedora does with their #AtomicDesktops, but many of the concepts for the end user are going to be similar/the same.
@kalpa Hey there. I just want to say that I'm also a fan of #OpenSUSE and their approach to this as well. I maintain a bunch of SLE Micro servers in production in my dayjob and it is legit amazing. I love as a #Linux user that #opensource is not a zero sum game and that we have some great choices in this space, as well as common areas for collaboration and innovation. As a #Fedora#Kinoite user myself, I'm thrilled #Kalpa exists!
@kalpa I have no idea if this is a thing or not, but there could be some interesting potential for #ublue style tools for #Kalpa and/or OBS. I know it's a different beast than ostree, but it could be awesome having a Ublue + SUSE Elemental approach to innovating custom immutable desktop environments on #OpenSUSE as well.
@vwbusguy I've been working on some ideas, with the #ublue guys already, and you'll probably see some of that making it's way into #Kalpa in the coming months. I can't speak to #Aeon, as I don't make the decisions there.
As far as the ability to do the image based rebasing, I'm not even certain how that would look, based on top of our stack, since we don't use ostree. Not to say it can't happen, but it's also not in our roadmap.
@jorge@vwbusguy It isn't. I don't personally have alot of interest in recreating something close to #Bazzite, for #Kalpa, but it's pretty basic, with OBS, to be able to grab what Bazzite is doing, and rebuild it, against a #Tumbleweed target, if somebody were so inclined.
If you want to use something like #dejadup to backup your #Kalpa system, at the moment, the flatpak won't work, as dejadup (and others) are leveraging gvfs on the host system, which isn't currently included by default in Kalpa.
transactional-update pkg in gfvs gvfs-backends will get this working for you.
But there's a chance that kwallet isn't going to play nice with libsecrets for storing your credentials.