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kalpa , to Random
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I do just want to give a quick shoutout to @PolGM and @K_REY_C for helping me out with visualizing a bit better what I was unable to do.

Not sure if either idea directly will be used, but I'll be in contact, if I do decide to use them, to make sure they're properly credited.

kalpa , to Random
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Offhand, is there anybody out there that works with (or another Editor) that might want to help out an artistically challenged developer?

I think what I want to do is fairly simple, but I sure as heck don't know what I'm doing, and can't figure out how to do it, just drop me a DM, or contact me through the "Contact Me" page on my blog https://sfalken.tech

kalpa , to Random
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A shiny new blog post, hopefully helping clarify exactly what the relationship is between and and give a bit of an update of where things are at.

https://sfalken.tech/posts/2024-06-08-how-do-aeon-and-kalpa-relate/

kalpa , to Random
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https://news.opensuse.org/2024/05/28/aeon-desktop-brings-new-features-in-rctwo-release/

upstream project has made their RC2 release, go check it out!

jimbodie , to Random
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Well f*ck me, RHEL 9 finally got rid of NIS. I think I knew this was coming but that was so far in the future, I had plenty of now problems to deal with. They are right, NIS is not at all secure for user auth. Great. I don't use NIS for that anymore. I use NIS for groups, netgroups, and automount maps, especially automount maps. I'm not worried about security for those. Might be time to finally develop a replacement to those bits of NIS and retire NIS like I've been contemplating.

kalpa ,
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@thaodan @jimbodie I don't know that much about it, but I know one of the folks that writes that you might find to your liking.

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kalpa ,
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@linuxiac This is perfectly normal for Tumbleweed, it happens any time any major foundational package updates, and is accepted. Yes, the xz mitigation was the cause of it this time, but this isn't that uncommon. glibc updates, for instance, are a very common reason for large update snapshots of Tumbleweed.

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kalpa , to Random
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Just as a notice, users likely have not recieved the fix for https://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2024/03/29/4 due to baloo5-file causing your automatic updates to fail.

I'm fixing that right now, but in the meantime, please run sudo transactional-update dup -i to Manually work past the breakage

kalpa OP ,
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i.e. when the dup asks you what to do with baloo5-file tell it to uninstall the package, you don't need it with

kalpa , to Random
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Speaking officially, I would caution users to please keep a level head regarding the current potential issues with Global Themes and other content from store.kde.org

The vast majority of the content there is probably fine to use, but this is all user generated content, and it is on you, as the end user, to protect yourself, and verify what these themes and plasmoids do, if you wish to use them.

kalpa OP ,
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Upstream is having some very serious conversations about how to mitigate this issue, as are the folks that run (The host of store.kde.org) regarding reporting and review.

It is just important to remember that your machines security ultimately rests in your hands, safeguards can be put in place, and will be, but it's still your machine, and it's possible to break things, no matter the software developers intentions.

kalpa OP ,
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We would also like to make it clear, contrary to some of the rhetoric bouncing around the internet at the moment, that upon review, this doesn't appear to be a "hack", but a case of unintended consequences. As near as we can tell, there was no malicious intent, but an honest mistake.

kalpa , to Random
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So at least for your humble developers personal workstation, the only major issue I've run into is that pam_kwallet6 is not being installed on upgrade, and has to be manually done. But there's something buggy with how it's interacting with flatpak applications. They can't seem to access the secrets stored in kwallet, that were put there by Kwallet5

kalpa OP ,
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That being said, if you just reauthenticate with your flatpak apps, the wallet works fine, just like it did before the upgrade, I guess those credentials just need to be updated.

kalpa , to Random
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If you do find problems on your shiny new that are not solved by a user with fresh configs, please file bugs https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=openSUSE+Tumbleweed&format=guided against the "KDE Desktop (Plasma)" Component, as those are most likely not Kalpa specific bugs.

kalpa , to Random
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users, you will have been upgraded to in your standard overnight updates. It is recommended, that before rebooting, you create a new user, and login there on reboot, just to make sure everything is working, there are some incompatibilities between your existing Plasma5 configurations and Plasma6, particularly if you've heavily modified your plasma desktop.

kalpa OP ,
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This doesn't mean you can't use your old user, just that you might need to do some troubleshooting, and starting with a fresh user, you can compare default configs against can be helpful.

kalpa OP ,
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The added benefit of doing this, is you will be able to rollback to the previous snapshot, if things are incredibly b0rked for you, without screwing up your old configs.

kalpa , to Random
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should be hitting in the next released Snapshot. That being said, upgrading your installs should technically be possible, just as it is on Tumbleweed, but it's not something that the Kalpa team is ready to "bless" as supported, until we do some testing.

Upgrade at your own risk, use a VM, do whatever it is that you normally do, when you want to try out the new and shiny.

msdropbear42 , to Random

Of Plasma 6 Distributions.

Thoughts:

  1. Plasma 6.0.x is great (albeit it did play havoc a bit on my desktop , as did 5.0.0 before it)
  2. I appreciate Devs giving us 6.0.1 rather than 6.0.0 initially
  3. Given it's not a , i am thrilled that Fedora 40 received the 6.0.1 update, & hope this continues
  4. Given #3, i'm a bit puzzled that Kinoite is at least three days behind
kalpa ,
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@msdropbear42 We're in no rush to update to . Not because it's overly buggy, or that we don't want to, but we track Tumbleweed, and It hasn't hit there just yet. We appreciate the work that the -KDE team is putting in, getting everything together.

kalpa , to Random
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Will I be able to upgrade my installation from to in situ or will I have to reinstall?

I also can't answer that question with any real certainty. In testing, I think it's going to be possible, based on the pre-release images, but I won't know until it gets fully accepted into .

Stay tuned, I will let folks know, when I know, and can speak with any kind of authority that it's going to work.

kalpa , to Random
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When is going to get ?

Well, When gets it. The packages have all been submitted, and are currently going through testing and the review process for Factory.

So I can't tell you that. We are downstream of Tumbleweed, and Kalpa will roll Plasma6 sometime after it's accepted into Factory.

larsmb , to Random
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Wondering why 24.2 hasn't shown up yet in 🤔

kalpa ,
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@larsmb https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/LibreOffice:24.2/libreoffice

I suspect it's because of Leap, looks like it builds fine for Tumbleweed, and just hasn't been submitted, might be worth asking the Maintainer

kalpa , to Random
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@sfalken will be appearing on https://hackaday.com/tag/floss-weekly/ next week (21-Feb), to discuss , , and hopefully answer some questions.

kalpa , to Random
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So I recently ran across this post and thread by @vwbusguy, and I would like to try to address some of the questions/misconceptions/etc that come up in the thread.

If you have questions, please, ask. What we do with isn't identical to what does with their , but many of the concepts for the end user are going to be similar/the same.

https://mastodon.online/@vwbusguy/111887740588197543

kalpa OP ,
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@vwbusguy We see the upsides to the image based approach that can offer to some folks, what the folks have going on, for instance, isn't really viable with our setup. It's all just a different way to approach a common problem.

kalpa OP ,
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@vwbusguy I've been working on some ideas, with the guys already, and you'll probably see some of that making it's way into in the coming months. I can't speak to , as I don't make the decisions there.

As far as the ability to do the image based rebasing, I'm not even certain how that would look, based on top of our stack, since we don't use ostree. Not to say it can't happen, but it's also not in our roadmap.

kalpa OP ,
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@vwbusguy @jorge so there isn't anything stopping anybody from grabbing the "secret sauce" from devel:microos:aeon and doing their own thing. everything behind the scenes is basically just tumbleweed

kalpa OP ,
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@vwbusguy @jorge Ah, There is one minor stumbling block that does occur to me, now that I think about it. Purely grabbing the Aeon or Kalpa sources do have a small issue with the installer. The MicroOS DVD ISO still uses the YaST based installer, which is a little problematic for somebody wanting to create a "spin"

I will follow up with the workaround

kalpa OP ,
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@vwbusguy @jorge You can generate a self-install image, with the current stuff in devel:microos:aeon/kalpa, but due to the lack of a firstboot wizard for Kalpa right now, you will end up having to drop to a TTY on firstboot, to setup your user. Not an issue for Aeon.

The other option is to copy how https://github.com/ProjectGreybeard is doing it, which is a text based installer, and has user setup in it.

Continued…

kalpa OP ,
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@vwbusguy @jorge Richard and the Aeon guys are working on a new installer https://github.com/sysrich/tik for Aeon (And Kalpa will inherit) but it's not ready to go yet.

kalpa OP ,
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@alxlg That's fair, I'm not going to pretend that isn't going to require more disk space than the equivalent at the moment.

It's just not something that we're concerning ourselves with at this point, but I certainly can understand that it's a concern for some users.

kalpa OP ,
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@jorge @vwbusguy It isn't. I don't personally have alot of interest in recreating something close to , for , but it's pretty basic, with OBS, to be able to grab what Bazzite is doing, and rebuild it, against a target, if somebody were so inclined.

jay , to Random
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❔ Seeking Web-Based CMS Recommendations (, , , etc.)

If you customize/maintain or use a Content Management System () to display Web content, I'd like to know which CMS your prefer

I've always coded Web-based components from scratch, but I'm curious about the CMS solutions that are commonly used to serve up content on the Web. The community here seems to be very tech-oriented, so I thought I'd be able to get some great feedback.

kalpa ,
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@jay Why would you be unsure about the future of openSUSE? We're doing fine.

kalpa ,
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@jay Fair enough. There's nothing wrong with Kinoite, I was just curious as to what your reasons were.

macberg , to Random
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I will now try to install on an old ass laptop I found laying around. with ran on it, but was really laggy, so let's see if this works better. I doubt it, due to being heavier than IceWM, but we'll see!

kalpa ,
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@macberg That shouldn't be happening, unless perhaps you're using the Nvidia proprietary Drivers, I seem to recall that GDM does some weirdness, unless you do some tweaking, making the Wayland session not available.

kalpa , to Random
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If you want to use something like to backup your system, at the moment, the flatpak won't work, as dejadup (and others) are leveraging gvfs on the host system, which isn't currently included by default in Kalpa.

transactional-update pkg in gfvs gvfs-backends will get this working for you.

But there's a chance that kwallet isn't going to play nice with libsecrets for storing your credentials.

Ooooh, Fun.

kalpa OP ,
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These two packages are now in the patterns for all new installs, as will be steam-devices (the udev rules for controllers and such)

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