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czech ,
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This guy joined the fediverse just to lick spez butt. The post history is hilarious.

snipgan ,
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Not only on top of being homophobic/transphobic this is cringe as hell. Oh god, who is this for besides terminally online incels? I don’t see this helping sway the older demographic at all….

dismalnow ,
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In case you weren't aware:

If you want to talk TO people about a topic, comment in that thread.

If you want to talk AT people about a different topic, create a new post.

Kill_joy ,
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Hey grandpa I think you accidentally logged on to kbin instead of truth social this morning.

TheOminousBulge ,
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This is good news, but I worry that folks on the left might be lulled into a false sense of security. We won't be done fixing Trump and MAGA's mess for years to come and we'll need every last vote and any help that can be given. I really believe complacency got us here and it will destroy this country if we let it.

Flaky_Fish69 ,
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So. Lets start with the discussion of what is actually murder. US and every state law defines murder as some variation of this:

Murder occurs when one human being unlawfully kills another human being....At common law, murder was defined as killing another human being with malice aforethought....

In short, "murder" is the unlawful killing of a human being. So, lets look at abortion as murder:

  • Is it lawful? yes. generally it is. with few exceptions.
  • is a fetus a human being? Scientifically, it's not. you or any one else might believe it is. But it is not. It has more in common with a parasite. but equally, one might believe that domestic cats are aliens sent to dominate the world. Such belief is immaterial to reality and to fact, as it is a matter of religion/faith/philosophy and the US is a secular nation, not a theocracy. So no. It's not yet a human.

So no. It is not murder. it's generally lawful, and within the scientific and medical community (you know, the people who study these things,) it is not yet a human. It's a mere collection of cells on it's way to becoming a human, sure. But it is not yet a human. It fails on both aspects.

Furthermore,

If you truly, honestly believed that doing something resulted in the death of a child, of course you'd want to prevent anyone from doing it.

You're right. Which is why it's so very damnably curious that the majority of pro-lifers are also in such ardent opposition to contraceptives. Knowing as I do, that the single most effective way of reducing unwanted pregnancies is inexpensive (or, gasp free) and easy access to contraceptives, and that the majority of elective abortions will be prevented if one prevents unwanted pregnancies in the first place.

Pro-Life hypocrisy at it's finest, right there. But wait. there's more.

depending on who you ask, 12 weeks is the earliest a fetus can feel pain, with many saying 24 weeks. up until the '80's it was was believed that newborns couldn't feel pain, since their brain was undeveloped.. and at 12 weeks, there's no connections to the brain, and the brain isn't quite developed enough to process that until 24 weeks. But even then, the fetus is not conscious- the necessary brain development isn't even in place until the third trimester- about 28 weeks.

Why is this a matter of hypocrisy? You see... for the first half of it's existence, a fetus has about as much sentience, sapience and intelligence than a starfish. So if the argument is that is "murder"... then I would expect Pro-Lifers to be vegans. Interestingly, it seems the vast majority... are not. (to be clear, animal welfare and women's reproductive rights are different issues and should be treated as different issues. However. if the ethics are "that's a sentient being" apply to a collection of cells that can't think, can't feel... then those ethical considerations should also apply to animals.)

bobthened ,

Don’t both sides this, this isn’t a both sides situation. I’m sure that there are some pro-choice people who do genuinely believe that life begins at conception and a foetus is equal to a living child but a) They are just categorically scientifically wrong, so it doesn’t matter what they think, and b) they are not the ones who are leading the charge for changing the laws, the ones in power who are pushing the narrative are doing it to distract their voting base from actual problems, to get the, riled up about a non-issue to trick them into voting against their own best interests.

Besides if they genuinely cared for the babies then there are many many other things they could get animated about that would actually make a positive impact on the lives of children like; more affordable/free healthcare, more paid maternity and paternity leave, better social programmes to help struggling parents etc. they’re just mad about it because it’s the issue of the year that right-wing media told them to be mad about – they haven’t actually thought about it much beyond that.

And even if they weren’t wrong about the science (which they are), it doesn’t matter because banning something like abortions doesn’t stop people wanting them and getting them, it just makes people do them in unsafe ways (ways that are much more likely to cause the death of the prospective mothers. If the religious right actually wanted to reduce the number of abortions then they should be pushing for thing like; better sex education, easier access to affordable/free contraception, the removal of “abstinence only” teaching practices etc.

stanleytweedle ,

‘Enlightenment centerism’ is so tiresome

There’s no argument against bodily autonomy. Everything else is either blind sentiment or disingenuous bullshit.

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