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nucleative ,

That's an interesting and somewhat sad point. Economically immigration is probably cheaper for society than raising domestic children properly.

Hypothetically we can scoop the cream from the top of other countries and let them bear the expense of early childhood education, and come out better off than doing it ourselves.

nucleative ,

It sounds obvious on the surface but higher wages don't always equal happier staff or more output.

I don't think the staff making 500k at OpenAI will be measurably happier with another 100k, for example.

But there is definitely a lot to be gained by getting staff as far away from a sense of poverty as possible and ikea might have helped their line workers a lot with this change.

nucleative ,

This is the ideal outcome. I'm afraid other factors will conspire to make this an unlikely outcome.

A glaring problem is that the people doing the jobs that take 20 years of experience were once young and needed to get their start somehow. If young people never get their start... They will never have the skills for the older person job, further incentivizing more centralization and automation.

My next concern is that humanity as a whole has some fundamental flaws. One of them being laziness to pursue endeavors that are hard when there's a lack of motivation. I think the underlying message of the movie Wall-E kind of address that.

If there's any doubt, look at the economic output of regions around the world where food is never in short supply because there is never a winter. The people are poor, largely uneducated, not entrepreneurial, oftentimes ruled by dictatorships or regimes, not really going anywhere, and yet they are fed and sleep in a hovel.

Whether they are happy with this outcome relative to a wage slave in a different kind of culture is a topic for interesting debate, but I think their stories show that people left to do whatever they want with their own time do not necessarily, on the whole, become mass producers of the arts or automatically find joy with their lives.

nucleative ,

Tl:dw Hubble is designed to look at objects really far away and isn’t calibrated for Earth or fast enough to track a single spot long enough for good exposure, so the earth would be blurry.

nucleative ,

Yes this solves all the problems, what could possibly go wrong

nucleative ,

Even China knows this. Give the hard working people a better job than mom and dad had and they won’t rebel.

The people who are rolling in their next billion have forgotten what happens when you take that away.

nucleative OP ,

Yeah that’s what it looks like. Strange, in the first few days after the API change it was broken.

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