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OverfedRaccoon , to Fediverse in So, I guess Threads is officially spyware... Not at all shocked, but, Jesus that's a lot of data they're wanting.
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Does this differ from what Meta likely already has on you through Facebook and/or Instagram? I’m not saying I disagree or anything, but is there anything here that isn’t already compromised by having spent more than a decade on Facebook or using Instagram?

Rabbithole OP ,

Probably not tbh, but it's another thing to actually see it there in a permissions list.

I'm pretty sure that none of this is really "news" to anyone. I posted it because it's a slightly more "in your face" view of what we already know.

fearout OP , to Fediverse in Full, expanded list of all the data points and their purposes that Meta's Threads collect and link to user accounts. It's even more insane than you might've thought.
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A lot of it duplicates across categories, but I left everything in so that you can assess each category for yourself.

0x4E4F ,
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On top of all that Other data 🤣, like what, when my granma had her first period, lol 🤣.

fearout OP ,
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Yeah. Seems like Apple doesn't have enough categories for all the shit they collect.

Janoose , to Fediverse in Full, expanded list of all the data points and their purposes that Meta's Threads collect and link to user accounts. It's even more insane than you might've thought.

Might as well hand them your unlocked phone and let them to have at it.

fearout OP ,
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That's pretty much what you're doing when you sign up, only remotely.

Polydextrous ,

It’s literally every scrap of data on your phone. If anyone can tell me something that’s on your phone that’s NOT on this list, I’d like to hear what it is

0x4E4F ,
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Flashlight

Hey, it’s not on the list 🤷.

platysalty ,

Thank god. It would be horrible if Facebook knew whenever I was committing a burglary.

0x4E4F ,
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Or trying to pee drunk in the middle of the night.

mizzyc , to Fediverse in Full, expanded list of all the data points and their purposes that Meta's Threads collect and link to user accounts. It's even more insane than you might've thought.
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Question: all these permitions are allowed by default? Or the app asks for it and you can allow them or not from Android/iOS permissions, like notifications?

fearout OP , (edited )
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You can block some things (like location data), but a lot of it is only moderated using an "Ask app not to track" button, which is more lenient.

mizzyc ,
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I didn't know there was a button like that! Where can I find it on Android?

fearout OP , (edited )
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I was talking about iOS, the image in the post is compiled from AppStore screenshots. Here’s a relevant page on Apple's website.

As for Android, I’m not really sure. Probably by installing DuckDuckGo? It runs a local firewall-type thing that blocks known trackers.

0x4E4F ,
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You can find the settings of what a certain app can access in Manage Apps in Settings. The permissions that each app has are listed there. You can revoke some of them, but some apps will just fail to start with all of them revoked.

DiffferentReality , to Fediverse in Full, expanded list of all the data points and their purposes that Meta's Threads collect and link to user accounts. It's even more insane than you might've thought.

This looks like pretty much everything possible to collect. Is there anything they left on the table so to speak or is this just a data grab at everything iOS / Android allows to be collected?

be_excellent_to_each_other , to Fediverse in Full, expanded list of all the data points and their purposes that Meta's Threads collect and link to user accounts. It's even more insane than you might've thought.
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    0x4E4F ,
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    This is /s, right?

    Feweroptions ,

    People are actually suggesting that. Shills maybe?

    fearout OP , (edited )
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    I think a lot of those are just people who want to be able to talk to their non-techy friends within the fediverse, but who also either haven’t yet realized the full scale of Threads’ privacy overreach, or they don’t give a shit/think it’s irrelevant since they don’t plan to use threads themselves.

    ggadget6 ,

    Correct. I don't care because I already use Facebook messenger and Instagram which do exactly the same things. However if there's another good option of interacting with threads users without using the app that would be nice

    eroc1990 , to Fediverse in Full, expanded list of all the data points and their purposes that Meta's Threads collect and link to user accounts. It's even more insane than you might've thought.
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    Here’s the Android version.

    A screenshot of the data privacy page for the Threads app, as listed in the Google Play Store.

    BEEKAYRANDEE ,

    Ah yes, it needs my political or religious beliefs for fraud prevention.

    Grimlo9ic , to Fediverse in Full, expanded list of all the data points and their purposes that Meta's Threads collect and link to user accounts. It's even more insane than you might've thought.
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    I was gonna say, it looks like the only thing they don't own when you say yes is your image and likeness, but they've probably already extracted that from your IG account too.

    LOL. LMAO, even.

    stopthatgirl7 , to Fediverse in Full, expanded list of all the data points and their purposes that Meta's Threads collect and link to user accounts. It's even more insane than you might've thought.
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    One of my coworkers asked me yesterday if I was going to try Threads, and I pointed out how it was illegal in the EU because of all the data it gathers. I’m good.

    Percy ,
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    Are you going to tell your coworker about mastadon if they don’t already know of it?

    stopthatgirl7 ,
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    They know, but aren’t interested. They know I use Mastodon, which is why they asked if I was interested in Threads.

    Steamymoomilk , to Fediverse in Full, expanded list of all the data points and their purposes that Meta's Threads collect and link to user accounts. It's even more insane than you might've thought.
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    Who is this brain dead to accept this agreement ACTUALLY THIS IS INSANE

    fearout OP ,
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    Someone who doesn't read it for starters

    0x4E4F ,
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    You know… the Next, Next, Next, Finish guys.

    Serously though, most people don’t even read them.

    VulcanSphere ,
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    Most people who don't bother to read app permissions information

    Wander , to Fediverse in Full, expanded list of all the data points and their purposes that Meta's Threads collect and link to user accounts. It's even more insane than you might've thought.
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    How tf would a phone even have a way to provide that data to an app? Anyone know how exactly this works?

    Aatube ,
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    Apple and Android already have them, unless you didn't fill it in.

    Wander ,
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    I don’t think my phone ever asked me about health data or religion. That’s why I find this so confusing.

    fishos ,

    Health data would be sourced from your fitness apps mostly. Many phones already have one built in(Fit with Google). Sleep trackers as well. Religion would be found on dating apps.

    Not saying they specifically will use those to get your info, but you said you never told you phone those things, so I'm just suggesting some ways you actually did.

    vluz ,
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    I don't think people realize how much data they leak daily.

    Chozo , to Fediverse in Full, expanded list of all the data points and their purposes that Meta's Threads collect and link to user accounts. It's even more insane than you might've thought.

    I think at this point a shorter list would be the data it doesn't collect.

    bedrooms ,

    I can't even come up with one item in that list

    FuntyMcCraiger ,

    I was gonna joke about it not having your Mother’s Maiden name, but honestly it probably does.

    livus ,
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    "Other Data Types" would cover that.

    DigitalTraveler42 , to Fediverse in Map of the fediverse, found on Wikipedia

    I hate how this infographic doesn’t have details for the logos who’s names aren’t spelled out.

    jplate8 , to Fediverse in Map of the fediverse, found on Wikipedia

    Is Nextcloud really part of the Fediverse? I what does it have to do with the rest of it?

    VexCatalyst ,

    Yes, and no. For the most part, NextCloud kinda does it’s own kind of federation: docs.nextcloud.com/…/federated_cloud_sharing.html

    docs.nextcloud.com/…/federated_cloud_sharing_conf…

    I had heard it’s based on the diaspora protocol but I don’t know how true that is.

    That said, there is a way to link your Mastodon account to your NextCloud account so you can view posts from within NextCloud.

    Machinist3359 ,

    I was about to say the same thing. I sort of understand it under networking, but how do I federate my music or video w ith nextcloud?

    sab ,
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    There's Nextcloud Social, which is a social network built in to Nextcloud that connects to the Fediverse. Nextcloud is already a hub that does a lot of things (file storage, email, notes, calendar, word processing etc), so for business users and organizations it might make sense to have a social network solution built directly into Nextcloud.

    It seems not to be in active development though. Which is a shame - it would be neat if self hosting Nextcloud gave you the option to easily have a self hosted handle on the Fediverse along with it.

    PaulDevonUK , to Fediverse in Map of the fediverse, found on Wikipedia
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    Maybe I am too synical but how come Lemmy is in the exact centre of this graphic?

    Codedheart ,
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    Lemmy seems to have gotten the lions share of reddit migrants. Which is fine mostly, it's got good features and seems to be the popular pick. But with all the posts I've been seeing lately it really seems like many Lemmy users think Lemmy is all there is. I personally don't give a shit how you are viewing the fediverse, but to me any boasting about your particular instance reads like you're bragging about the designer of your glasses...

    Poggervania ,
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    I think that’s because those kind of users either want the Fediverse to be Reddit 2.0 instead of its own thing, or they want to be swept up in the drama and feel like they stuck it to Spez. Like it’s weird to see some of the Reddit-specific communities like r/196 be on here and people already making Reddit-tier inside jokes in the Fediverse like the 3 days of pooping.

    Codedheart ,
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    Yeah I think it's kinda cringe. I had to block m/196 cause I just do not care.

    theinspectorst ,
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    Lemmy seems to have gotten the lions share of reddit migrants

    According to fedidb.org, Lemmy (all instances) has 70,412 active users while kbin (all instances) has 61,811. That's a 53%-47% split - technically a narrow majority, but the reality is that both services have picked up 'about half' of the new users. (I focused here on active users, as the total users stats are badly skewed by the problem a few weeks ago where several Lemmy instances that don't validate accounts were overrun by bots.)

    It's not obviously enough to justify Lemmy getting special attention or Lemmy users not being aware the Threadiverse is bigger than just Lemmy.

    forpeace OP ,

    Wow I thought many more people had gone to Lemmy. I'm looking forward to getting apps that can connect to more parts of the fediverse. Something that let's you compile a feed that includes things like PeerTube content.

    lowdownfool ,
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    I think because it overlaps Networking, Books, and Writing. Not sure how it involves books. Also, kbin and others should be in writing as well.

    brunox ,
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    yeah, i don’t think that much should be read into it. But in any case, the source does not seem to higlight Lemmy in particular in any way.

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