Frasier

littlebluespark , in Christmas can be hard for some people. I hope those of you without your car keys, a good jacket, or a warm meal can find all of that in spades this season.
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Kelsey Grammer’s a flaming asshole and a fascist. What does that make his fans?

captainjaneway OP Mod ,
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Art can be separated from the artist. It has been known to happen, believe it or not.

mkhoury ,
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I’m a fan of Frasier as a show, I’m not a fan of Kelsey Grammer as a person. He’s just a meat puppet asked to say lines, he is not equivalent to the show.

stom , in Will we get a season 2 of the Frasier reboot?
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Made it half way and felt like someone had just thrown Frasier into Big Bang Theory, and hired some kids fresh out of acting school.

The original was very cheesy but right for the time and well executed, but this reboot was just awkward and uncomfortable. Felt like KG was just helping out a family member with some college coursework and somehow it got aired.

Let it go, don’t ruin it further.

Squizzy , in Will we get a season 2 of the Frasier reboot?

I hope so, it wasn’t all that bad. You throw away most of the cast except Rodney and I’d be happy though.

The roommate is gorgeous but meh, Freddie is a little bit the same and boring. David sucks. And the college woman is a pain.

I still enjoyed the show, hope it tightens up.

jqubed , in Will we get a season 2 of the Frasier reboot?
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Just finished watching the first season last night. It wasn’t as good as the original but that’s also a high bar to clear. It had its moments, and I’d say it’s above average compared to your average new sitcom in a first season. There were a lot of points where I thought they were going for some dumb classic sitcom trope/cliche but they’d surprise me and go a little deeper. I’d like to see them get a second season to see if they can really find their footing and go somewhere with this. They would really need to step it up in season 2 to justify additional seasons, though.

captainjaneway Mod , in Will we get a season 2 of the Frasier reboot?
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As per usual, this reboot lost the soul of the show. I could still laugh at it, but the show runners have no idea what made it successful.

  1. Not enough heartfelt moments. Cheap laughs are what killed the vibe for me. Frasier has some episodes that pull at my heart strings emotionally. You gotta have good drama to have good comedy, in my opinion.
  2. Frasier is dressed so weird. He looks like he’s trying to dress down? That’s not his style. He’d be dressed to the nine as usual. In Harvard, that shouldn’t be too unusual.
  3. Jokes were paid off too quickly. Frasier would often give a joke quite a while before it was paid off.
  4. Characters were simply unrealistic. Niles was goofy at times, but he had self-respect and all the arrogance of Frasier. But Niles’ son acts ten years younger than he actually is. I just didn’t believe most characters.
  5. Set design was not great. Frasier’s home having the Rorschach wallpaper? That feels like a joke. It doesn’t seem authentic. Again, Frasier is not a “modern” man. If anything, his home should look much more like a cigar lounge than a '“contemporary” home with shrink elements. I was also disappointed by how often the set was statically shot. They did not utilize many angles. I liked the bar well enough.

Overall, I thought the show had merit on its own. But it was a poor sequel for Frasier. It was funny at times. Some moments the show did come through. The final episode was actually pretty damn close to the original thing. I loved some of the bits with the trees, the goose, Roz, and how his son surprised him. I just felt like they missed the mark on too many other episodes.

I also wish more studios would stop lighting everything so heavily. A bit of nuance in your shots isn’t such a bad thing. Every shot looks like plastic to me. It’s sort of a modern film approach. Maybe I’m a rusty bucket, but it feels uninspired to me.

ptz , in It's lonely around here. How are all my Frasier enthusiasts doing?
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Hope to have some contributions soon. I’m due for a re-watch, and I’m sure I’ll find some gems to share.

Have been watching nothing but narco novelas all winter, lol, so I need a change of pace.

EvilLootbox , in It's lonely around here. How are all my Frasier enthusiasts doing?
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Currently hiding under the piano with a bottle of sherry

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lol!

Donjuanme , in It's lonely around here. How are all my Frasier enthusiasts doing?

Finished rewatching/first time all the way through watching psych.

Working through modern family.

I wanted to watch through Frasier before watching the new series, I think I’ve lost the desire to watch the new series, and I’m worried it’s damaging my ability to watch the original. It was so good, the doctor is out is one of my favorite episodes of television ever. But can I make it through 10 seasons to get there?

Also just not enough time in my time off

Bryony87 OP Mod ,

I also love Modern Family

KingJalopy , in It's lonely around here. How are all my Frasier enthusiasts doing?

Best show ever. Even the new series was pretty amazing even if only because I got more Frasier lol.

Bryony87 OP Mod ,

Yeah it wasn’t quite the magic of the original but it was still more Frasier and that’s always good in my book!

KingJalopy ,

Agreed. Any Frasier is better than none!

tpyo , in It's lonely around here. How are all my Frasier enthusiasts doing?

I am doing enthusiastically well since they incorporated Hulu into Disney+ and I can now binge it again ad-free

Lord_ToRA , in It's lonely around here. How are all my Frasier enthusiasts doing?
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e_t_ Admin , in It's lonely around here. How are all my Frasier enthusiasts doing?

I can't sleep nights 'til I learn who hurled what ball through what apparatus

KevonLooney , in What's your Frasier hot take?

Been said before: Frasier is the most boring character on the show.

Just look at the reboot. No Niles = no good.

c0mbatbag3l ,
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Makes perfect sense, he’s the straight man who’s constantly surrounded on all sides by chaos and people he doesn’t really jive with. He’s caught between two worlds and struggles to find others that are on the same wavelength.

He’s not as snooty as the high society he wants for himself, but he’s also not as down to earth as most. His lifestyle and the people he’s got in his life push his buttons which causes the reactions that make the character so beloved.

Imma_lazyboy , in What's your Frasier hot take?

Who?

OutrageousUmpire , in What's your Frasier hot take?

Niles should have ended up with Poppy. Or at least that should have been a longer term storyline. They had chemistry.

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