Star Trek and The Orville, which is better/worse?

I asked this question sometime ago on The Orville’s subreddit, and surprisingly got mixed responses. I assume most here however, are going to prefer Star Trek, specifically TNG that its aping from. For the record I do prefer TNG as well, but rewatching The Orville, after you get past its kinda sucky first season, I really enjoyed the show and feel it’s a very good successor to TNG just with added humor and levity which I think is a good thing. And there are elements I find better in The Orville. And now that Lower Decks is back (a show I’m now a fan of after dismissing it for so long), I felt the need to return to The Orville and see if I still liked it. I’m really hoping it at least gets a fourth season. Anyway, what do you guys think?

buckykat ,

The Orville overall is right up there with the top tier Trek shows.

IWantToFuckSpez ,

I like them both. Sure new Star Trek isn’t close to what TNG was and Orville feels more like a true sequel to TNG. But I can understand why Star Trek had to change directions. Just compare the production value between the two shows. A modern Star Trek show that looks like Orville would never pull the numbers that would satisfy Paramount, since casual viewers probably wouldn’t even try the show. And to justify the higher production value they had to write more action based stories and a shorter season.

startrekexplained OP ,

Good points, but I do think SNW taps a bit into the TNG vibe. It’s a very beautiful episodic show like The Orville is.

PunchingBag , (edited )

Just giving my opinion, but I did not care for the Orville. I’m a big fan of wonderment and adventure in Star Trek, with a healthy dose of exploration and philosophical consideration. In my experience, Orville spent all of its time on trying to be Star Trek: The Snark Generation and trying to make Seth MacFarlane look like a cool space captain. I think around the third or fourth time MacFarlane had said something incredibly offensive to the person he was meant to be diplomatically engaging with, but since he said it in his quick Family Guy aside voice it was apparently okay, that I got pretty tired of the show. It was way too much of a badly written ego trip for MacFarlane and not nearly enough science fiction fun. I was left feeling like the Orville was what would happen if Brian from Family Guy tried to write Star Trek, that it was more of mockery of science fiction than a positive addition, and I never went back.

In my further opinion, Lower Decks, meanwhile, is knocking it out of the park. I’ve heard a lot of good things about Strange Worlds as well, though I haven’t had opportunity to check it out yet.

EDIT: Yeah, I figured this would happen. Hooray the internet.

startrekexplained OP ,

Lower Decks is a mockery of sci fi and Star Trek though, I don’t pretend LD is otherwise.

PunchingBag ,

How so?

Gbagginsthe3rd ,

I really enjoy The Orville, I like Star Trek.

I dunno if its the levity in The Orville but it just feels wholesome. The right balance between science, space and entertainment.

Both are my ideas of utopia. I think thats what draws me into each series separately

startrekexplained OP ,

The Orville does the utopia a bit better. For example no prisons in the future and the post scarcity, socialist no money utopia is ironically taken more seriously in The Orville than in Star Trek where it almost seemed embarrassed by it at times.

toiletwhole ,
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I like them both :)

EnsignRedshirt ,

The Orville is a deeply sincere homage made by someone who clearly both loves and understands Star Trek. It is, in many ways, more true to form than some of the recent Trek shows and movies, and it deserves to be considered an honorary part of the franchise. I hope we see more of it.

startrekexplained OP ,

Couldn’t have said it better myself. By the third season, I was like “yes this is honorary Star Trek”

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