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polygon6121 , in Suggestions for cheap enterprise grade hardware to run linux headless.

Two things you need to answer to get any relevant answers. What is the budget and what is your required spec and software stack.

driftWood OP ,

Budget is not an issue actually. This is going to be deployed for customers but i want to it to be as cheap aspossible to get them maximum value for their money. Software stack is going to be minimal. Probably alpine linux or ubuntu server. Spec wise i think even an i3 level cpu is fine. Ram 8gb, hard disk 256 gb ssd should be more than enough. Dont require any fancy wireless stuff like wifi and Bluetooth.

jlh , in Suggestions for cheap enterprise grade hardware to run linux headless.

Deployment is probably more important than hardware for enterprise one-off machines.

Raspberry pis are plenty reliable, though maybe you could opt for something with a case, an N100 and a more reliable SSD, for a similar price.

mosiacmango , in Suggestions for cheap enterprise grade hardware to run linux headless.

Your use case sounds like something a nuc or sff from minisforum could handle, but if you want “cheap” and “small enterprise,” both ambiguous terms, the supermicro superservers should fit the bill.

Pacmanlives ,

Having run a few SuperMircos in an enterprise they do fit this bill nicely. If one dies you have at least one or two to pull

driftWood OP ,

Thanks. Will take a look.

possiblylinux127 , in Suggestions for cheap enterprise grade hardware to run linux headless.
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Does it need to be replaceable or upgradable?

I personally used hardware from Pine64 but its not for everyone. You also could go with an Android tablet

driftWood OP ,

Not really. Just has to run till at least 5years at least. Since this will be deployed at customer site, pine64 and android both are not feasible. Thanks for the suggestion though.

redfox , in Suggestions for cheap enterprise grade hardware to run linux headless.

I have a stack of HP Gen 8 servers in the lab that I got off of ebay, for cheap. Cause they’re G8s…and not 10/11 :)

driftWood OP ,

I have one in the lab at office. Were abt to be thrown out. Nursed it back to life somehow. Good to play around plus company foots the electricity bill so win-win.

knobbysideup , in Suggestions for cheap enterprise grade hardware to run linux headless.
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I wouldn’t at home. Enterprise hardware requires enterprise cooling and rack mount systems are loud.

driftWood OP ,

Agreed. This is for customer site. At home i would do the same thing on a PI.

comador , in Suggestions for cheap enterprise grade hardware to run linux headless.
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You can basically get rack mount level performance from:

  • Supermicro SuperWorkstation Tower Servers
  • Lenovo Thinkstation P Series Server Towers
  • HPE ML series Tower Servers
  • Dell Precision Tower Workstations

In your situation, I’d be looking at ebay, serversupply, or other used hardware resalers that offer 2 generations back hardware. Used DDR4 based systems are abundant and cheap enough, go that route.

driftWood OP ,

Thanks for these suggestions. Will look into them. Hopefully they are still manufactured and supported by the vendors.

comador ,
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Both Supermicro and HPE have the longest support of their products than the others.

shalafi , in Suggestions for cheap enterprise grade hardware to run linux headless.

Bought many on my last job:

www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ssn=savemyserver&store_n…

These guys are the bomb.

PutangInaMo , in Suggestions for cheap enterprise grade hardware to run linux headless.

Just grab a cheap server off ebay

driftWood OP ,

So this will be deployed for customer sites. I dont think they will be happy with second hand stuff from ebay 😀 For my personal stuff i would have been happy with that though.

PutangInaMo ,

In that case just go with a cloud service provider

possiblylinux127 , in VMware may be getting rid of Skyline
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This should not be a surprise. Broadcom said they were going to kill of the small parts of the business and that they were going to jack up prices.

lauha , in Backdoor found in widely used Linux utility breaks encrypted SSH connections | Ars Technica

Just got the zx update

possiblylinux127 OP ,
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The good one I hope

milicent_bystandr , in Backdoor found in widely used Linux utility breaks encrypted SSH connections | Ars Technica

Wow, thank you for sharing this! Grumblegrumble have to reinstall my system…

This straight on the back of a thread about flatpak verification and security - a reminder that a lot of the incredible work of a distribution, especially Debian, is a community of people curating packages with care, and not just for how quick they can be made to work together.

Also a highlight for the work toward fully replicatable systems - if I understand right, the exploit here was snuck in in the binary, not in the source code.

SMillerNL ,

No, it was snuck into the website download of the source code. If you got it from GitHub it was fine, if you got it from their website you got pwnd

hydroptic ,

That’s not correct as far as I can tell. The backdoored code ended up in release tarballs (but not source tarballs because of autoconf fuckery), see eg. this mailing list discussion.

SMillerNL ,

Ah, you’re right. I wasn’t aware they had release tars on GitHub as well

Nyfure ,

Well you only have to reinstall if you had affected versions installed.
For e.g. Debian stable, thats not the case. Or e.g. Arch sshd doesnt link to xz, so thats not a concern there.

Most systems wont be affected because their sshd doesnt link xz, didnt update to that version yet or simply isnt accessible from the outside.
Though it does show how vulnerable critical packages can be and how much better we need to protect them.

hydroptic , in Backdoor found in widely used Linux utility breaks encrypted SSH connections | Ars Technica

HN comments have some more in-depth information about this news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39865810

e_t_ Admin , in New Windows driver blocks software from changing default web browser

"You will use Edge as your default browser"

possiblylinux127 OP ,
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They are literally saying F you to literally everyone

APassenger ,

They did this before with IE...

TheJack , in New Windows driver blocks software from changing default web browser

Important part from the article:

Windows users can still change their default browser through the Windows settings.

redcalcium ,

I understand the need for security, but default is powerful, which is why the eu requires os vendors to provide a browser choice screens instead of letting the os vendors to pick their own default browser. Without coupling this restriction with a browser choice screen, this would guarantee to increase edge market share simply because it’s the default.

possiblylinux127 OP ,
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Great how many people are going to do that

pendulum_ ,
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Almost all of them. Especially corporate customers on managed devices

I'm as pro *Nix as the next person, but be careful of viewing the world through rage coloured lenses. Just makes everything look like a red flag.

Chronographs ,

Yeah I’ve seen malware that installs their own version of chromium and sets that as the default, I’m assuming this will block that

possiblylinux127 OP ,
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Maybe I'm out of the loop but I've never heard that being a major issue.

possiblylinux127 OP ,
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Your assuming everyone understands how default apps work. And you are forgetting that most people get intimidated by the popups trying to get you not to change the default.

It is complete enshitification if you ask me. There should be no reason why a application can't have a button to make it the default.

pendulum_ ,
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It's possible that I've been lucky, and my experience of end users when it comes to Windows lately have been using it since Windows 10 which strongly pushed the Default Apps configuration vs previous versions. The world is a big place after all

possiblylinux127 OP ,
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Maybe I'm just over reacting. But people like us deal directly or indirectly with the fallout of such madness. I hope that the DOJ goes after Microsoft at some point soon or at least scares them a little.

pendulum_ ,
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Certainly wouldn't hurt them, the fear of God never hurts an international company

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