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southsamurai , (edited ) in xkcd #2942: Fluid Speech
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I'm sorry, but this one fails hard. My country ass drawls like I get paid by the vowel length, and I've never once shortened going to, to a single syllable. Never heard anyone do it either.

And hot potato isn't difficult to say at all.

Is this one a joke rather than something that's supposed to be real?

Now, I'm not saying we don't have some mush mouthed mofos up in these here hills, we do. Just not to that degree at all.

Edit: for anyone coming late to the party, I did say it in a sentence, and even changed the sentence up to see if it was some kind of specific thing like that. Got kind of obsessed with it for an hour or two, calling up friends that know I'm strange about language oddities and don't mind.

No matter how fast I got, no matter what sentence I tried, there was still a distinct, split second pause with an inhalation between them that makes the t and p distinct from each other. There was no ha'patata effect, or anything similar. Just hot, that brief pause as the tongue shifts and the lips purse for the potato, then the potato in a sweet southern drawl.

Maybe it was the "this fails hard" part that set off the parade of "yes it does" regardless of the fact that someone is saying that not only do they not do it, but other people with the same or similar regional accent don't either. And that's the case. The only two people I could rope in to try it out that did it came from Pennsylvania originally, and haven't developed a proper way of speaking yet (and if anyone doesn't recognize that as a joke, bugger off).

Shit, I was enthusiastic about this little quirk of speech. But damn, people maybe not keep repeating the same fucking thing when someone is making a good faith conversation about an oddity of language that should be interesting rather than another chance to feel superior by sticking to a generalization in a fucking comic strip.

Zoot ,
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You slow down for the t in hot? If you say hot potato aloud, in a sentence, you'll likely drop the T. This also really depends on your accent.

Atleast when I slowed down to say it aloud, it sounded quite unnatural to purposely slow down for that T sound in Hot

southsamurai ,
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Nah, no need to slow down. Molasses flows faster in winter unless I'm pissed off and swearing. The t and p are distinct. The o vowels in potato get drawn out, and essentially turn into puhtaytuh, unless I'm paying attention and speaking formally but the t and p are separate. I've been annoying my wife trying to make a sentence where it happens, even asked my dad to do it so I could hear him.

I plan to annoy other family and friends tomorrow because it seems weird for something universal enough to end up in an xkcd to not happen at least enough to have encountered it, but because "hot potato" is a game, and a slang term, I've heard it a lot. I can't think of any time there wasn't at least a partial stop between the t and p, with the t being distinct. Plenty of mangling potato until it sounds like a foreign word, but that's a different thing

Maybe it's regional? Gods know the Appalachian dialect is full of some weird quirks.

phdepressed ,

You're not supposed to just say hot potato. Use it the middle of a sentence then say it fast.

notabot ,

Turning 'potato' into 'puhtaytuh' is an example of what they're talking about. Saying 'puhtaytuh' involves less mouth movement than saying 'potato'.

Try using 'hot potato' in a sentence and you'll probably notice that the glottal stop at the end of 'hot' gets toned down or dropped. The 't' sound will still be there, but your tounge wont move as much as if you say 'hot' on it's own.

southsamurai ,
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I keep fucking saying that I've been doing that, and it doesn't fucking happen.

Y'all motherfuckers apparently never come into the mountains where speech is slooooow by default.

Even speeding up on purpose, it doesn't happen. Which is why I made the original comment in the first place. Wouldn't waste my fucking time otherwise. Jfc people can be assholes over nothing at all

Semi_Hemi_Demigod ,
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If you can't say "tellyahwat" in one syllable you're not country enough

southsamurai ,
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Y'all need to gitonupouttahyuh

xhieron ,
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It's a broad generalization, but it's not really a matter of opinion. We can scan people's mouths and faces when they talk (and have in order to demonstrate this stuff). I think the last example probably only applies that way in particular circumstances though, since English speakers automatically group, contract, and arrange certain phonemes in certain orders (e.g., I'm not, I ain't, but never I amn't--and in real speech "I ain't" is almost always one syllable). In this example, more frequently my country ass contracts the first syllable of "gonna" away instead of the second, so "I'm 'na head to the store; y'all need anything?"

The hot potato example just stands for the premise that in real speech the t at the end of hot and the p at the beginning of potato slur together, and if you deliberately enunciate both consonants, you sound like you're reading to a transcriber. Compare the way a normal person says "let's go" to the way you sound if you force separate the words: you sound like you're doing a Mario impression.

southsamurai ,
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I'm sitting here sounding like an idiot repeating the phrase, and doing a full sentence. There's a distinct, split second pause in between the t and p, no matter how fast I try to go.I can't seem to say the hot without that t being crisp, with the tongue against the upper part of the mouth, then the shift for the p causing a tiny pause in between.

If anything, there's a brief inhalation, which is kind of a sound that links them. Is that what it's supposed to be? We can't be that far off around here. My dad says it the same way I do, I bugged him about it earlier.

When I force it into one mouth movement, it turns into a "tup" sound, but that feels alien to me.

tigeruppercut ,
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Prob applies most to the GenAm accent

Ephera ,

I had to think of a ghetto accent "I'm ga'a fuck you up, mate".

So, it's not like there's no movement in that single syllable. A mild attempt is made at pronouncing two syllables, by having the back of the tongue shortly touch the roof of the mouth. But for properly pronouncing an "n", the front of your tongue needs to touch the roof of your mouth, and that's certainly not happening.

ZDL ,
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Yes. You a special snowflake who is the only human being on planet Earth who doesn't do sandhi. You should go to the nearest university's linguistics department and show off your linguistically unique trait. You could probably make a decent living as a guest speaker at linguistics conventions too.

🙄

southsamurai ,
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Hey, suck a dick buddy

ZDL ,
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I'll leave that to the expert.

MyFairJulia , in xkcd #2941: Cell Organelles
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Antivirus is not enough! Use Protegent!

Viking_Hippie , in xkcd #2941: Cell Organelles

I love the explainxkcd meme of marking obviously true statements with [citation needed] and this one has a couple doozies:

Even a single star is far too big to fit in a cell. [citation needed]

The real Golgi was not and is not a tiny alien being who merged with our cells, as the comic and title text imply. [citation needed]

j4yt33 , in xkcd #2941: Cell Organelles

The cell as seen by a molecular biologist:

Inside

Nucleus

Outside

Gene/protein of interest

hsdkfr734r , in xkcd #2941: Cell Organelles

Found the power house!

KISSmyOSFeddit , in xkcd #2941: Cell Organelles

Midichlorians are the force-house of the cell

Molten_Moron , in xkcd #2941: Cell Organelles

Hypoallergenic filling is technically correct

Treczoks , in xkcd #2941: Cell Organelles

It somehow differs from the picture in my biology book, IIRC ;-)

rmuk ,

Same. Mine has the nucleoloulous on the right.

Viking_Hippie ,

Mine has McAfee in stead of Norton Antivirus

nicknonya , in xkcd #2941: Cell Organelles
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aw hell nah i got norton in me

Hamartiogonic , in xkcd #2941: Cell Organelles
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Lithosphere and mantle. Got it. 👍

randomaccount43543 OP , in xkcd #2941: Cell Organelles
thirstyhyena , in xkcd #2940: Modes of Transportation

Bicycles are only more dangerous than cars because of cars.

rockerface ,
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Also, only less convenient than cars because of cars

EddoWagt ,

That's just not true, try getting groceries on your bike

parlaptie ,

Literally how I always do my grocery shopping.

EddoWagt ,

For a family or only for yourself?

parlaptie ,

I only live by myself but if you need larger shipping trips, there's cargo bikes for that.

EddoWagt ,

Didn't consider that, fair enough I suppose

Jentu , in xkcd #2940: Modes of Transportation

I really wish the x axis was average distance traveled and the y axis was danger.

I get that the way this graph was designed was for humor and to highlight hot air balloons, but if you’re looking for a safe vehicle for a specific distance, it really doesn’t help out in any way. It probably wouldn’t be safe to drive my car across the Atlantic Ocean.

AeonFelis , in xkcd #2940: Modes of Transportation

What about pogo sticks?

fruitycoder ,

Less convient but also less dangerous then hot air ballons

IamLazersword , in xkcd #2940: Modes of Transportation

I'm not sure I agree that unicycles are safer than roller blades. But that's probably because I am comfortable on roller blades and don't know how to unicycle, so for me, the opposite is true.

ReveredOxygen ,
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I suspect that roller blades have much higher top speed, as well as being much more susceptible to small rocks

grandkaiser ,

As both an extreme unicyclist & rollerblader, unicycles are actually incredibly safe. More safe than a bicycle. The top speed is very slow comparatively, and if you fall... You fall on your feet. Forwards? Feet. Backwards? Feet. Sideways? Feet. If your feet were strapped into the pedals (like rollerblades...) it would be a deathtrap.

LifeInMultipleChoice ,

Trains and planes and others are a bit wonky for this chart. If I needed to take get to work, train and plane immediately resort to walking the entire way (unless get in a car, on a bike, fall just after). So while traveling across the country for a trip may be convenient on a train... Wait, unless I only have the weekend or a short work trip/vacation, because then it would take to much time and be inconvenient. Tried to find an example. Travel to Las Vegas from Nashville. Plane, ~3 hour flight plus let's say 2 hour travel and airport bs. So 5 hours there, 5 back. Driving: 26 hours (each way). Walking: Death by dehydration in desert. Train: not even listed as there was no routes.

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