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CaptObvious ,

Threads isn’t exactly the fediverse.

panormus , to Random Italian
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La leggenda del coccodrillo al mercato della Vucciria di Palermo.

Tra le tante leggende palermitane, non mancano le storie legate a fatti misteriosi, intriganti e suggestivi, come quella del coccodrillo che divorava i bambini che giocavano vicino alle fontane del mercato della Vucciria a Palermo.

https://www.panormus.blog/storie.php?id=24kF9rPBHhLjpSq

Kbin_space_program ,

If we don't give them the chance in the first place, then we won't lose anything.

Why are you so eager to make a deal with a known evil?

Sabata11792 OP ,
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too bad that doesnt stop the meta-hate boner across the verse.

It's a trust issue. They have a bad reputation and a lot of power. The hate is well earned.

FfaerieOxide ,
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you should make better choices.

I already did: not to defend meta.

Your turn.

Kolanaki ,
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Ugh… He’s also one of those “first” posters? What a jackass.

FfaerieOxide ,
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im not defending meta. im not anything meta. i dont give a shit about them to the point im baffled anyone would care to block them by wasting the energy.

Yet you have the energy to chastise people who rightly ring alarm bells whenever meta reaches for Ol' Assfuck out its case.

Again, why are you here?

If meta is not a problem, go suck them off on their own site.

The whole point of the fediverse is not fucking with the companies you're defending.

roastedDeflator , (edited )
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that's assuming all these concerned parties actually want a solution and not just to vilify Israel

For this statement to be valid it would be required that the concerned parties are equal. In the case of the Israel and Palestine there is a power imbalance. On one hand there is the zionist settler colonial power of Israel that is one of the strongest military forces in the world. One the other hand you have Palestine that is not even recognized as a country by the colonizers and instead of borders the colonizer has raised a wall controlling amongst other things the few entrances.

Calling out Israel for its settler colonial policies is no synonym to vilifying it.

roastedDeflator , (edited )
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It's more than "calling them out" when they helped create the situation. The Arab league invaded Israel (…)

I was not talking about Arab people, I don’t know where you got that from.

Also before the Arab league invaded Israel, (debatable but not our topic) Israel had to be created as a country. If Israel has the right to exist in West Asia, there are no valid arguments on why Palestine should not have that right as well. Are there?

For the apartheid in South Africa to end, both colonizers and colonized worked together for some sort of solution. Palestine has recognized Israel as part of the Oslo agreement. As long as Israel is not recognizing Palestine, no solution can be implemented, and the Genocide will continue.

roastedDeflator , (edited )
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to get the Arab League to enforce a demilitarized zone between Palestine and Israel

Let’s say that this is what he’s saying. I don’t see you mentioning what Israel has to do, so this reading cannot not be a solution cause it leaves out the responsibilities of Israel. What would you put on the top of the list of what Israel has to do? My answer to that would be that Israel has to stop bombing and starving, civilians and children, as well as recognize Palestine.

On Genocide, Israel is doing at least 3 of the 5 required for one to be called as such. And ICJ court said "plausible" so far.

Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
a. Killing members of the group;
b. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
c. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
d. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
e. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

roastedDeflator , (edited )
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I am not ignoring the first part, this is why every military action doesn't qualify under that statute but Israel is “plausibly” doing a Genocide according to ICJ. Personally I don’t need a court decision to make up my mind.

Plausible does not mean probable

see dictionary for details?

Apart from that, you haven't said anything about what are Israel’s responsibilities, and you actively ignored my specific question on the matter. We cannot talk solutions without that so I don’t see any point continuing this attempt to have a conversation.

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TinyPizza ,
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All these "vote blue no matter who" boat shoe lickers should make sure to put this on top of the stack of reasons they trot out at every opportunity. Roasting on all of us to fall in line all the time is bullshit when any rational person can look at this and legitimately say "why should I care?" Are they as bad as the christian nationalist fascists that are getting frothed up to start killing? Probably not but kinda. This is the shit that MLK was talking about when he was locked in the Birmingham jail. These god damn white moderates don't wanna ruffle any feathers or bring about actual change so they're going to sit on their hands. This is akin to locking the doors on a movie theater with an arsonist in it so that the police can come and bring the criminal to justice. You don't want to come off as some sort of vigilante so best to have the proper authorities come sort it out. At the same time, what kind of person would you be to let the arsonist get away?

If anyone tells you that someone always deserves your vote, then they better damn well preface it with a huge piece on why and how we need to be on these politicians cases from the jump to hold them accountable. How we need to show up and protest in front of their houses and at every event until they keep their promises. We need a PSA every time that while there might not be a viable alternative in voting, we need to band together and make these fuckers lives uncomfortable to the point that they give a shit now. No more pleas for votes unless they come with that message. These fuckers are just trying to kick the can down the road far enough so that they're dead by the time we have to fight these cross burners in the streets.

Col3814444 OP ,

Remember how upset the right were about Obama’s “radical” preacher? I don’t recall that he wanted anyone ‘put to death’.

ivanafterall ,

The name of the pastor's church?

Grace Baptist Church

binaryphile ,

Fuck this guy.

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